What is wrong with my torch
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Yeah I use them all the time, the salifert is out of stock, yeah so it’ll be a wait, they are next today if in stock, I use eBay sometimes too if I only want the odd item, normally a little more expensive but you get it in a couple of days.
Dburr1014
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In your video I see the flesh receding off the skeleton, has it been like this since its been in your possession?
The skeleton is pretty white which means to me that recession is recent but there is no flesh what so ever, so it's been declining for some time.
Could be that it came to you this way and in these type of coral I've been reading recently on r2r that the damage could have been done a month ago before it shows up on the coral.
Randy Holmes-Farley has a paper on how to make calibration fluid to test your method on sg. I recommend searching and doing this to double check your reading.
Calcium that high without inputting it is weird. The only explanation I can think is your sg is higher than what your test reading is. That would also mean your alk and mag are also higher.
Edit: Hanna cal checkers also read 85 points to high than actual. (as r2r posters wrote)
The skeleton is pretty white which means to me that recession is recent but there is no flesh what so ever, so it's been declining for some time.
Could be that it came to you this way and in these type of coral I've been reading recently on r2r that the damage could have been done a month ago before it shows up on the coral.
Randy Holmes-Farley has a paper on how to make calibration fluid to test your method on sg. I recommend searching and doing this to double check your reading.
Calcium that high without inputting it is weird. The only explanation I can think is your sg is higher than what your test reading is. That would also mean your alk and mag are also higher.
Edit: Hanna cal checkers also read 85 points to high than actual. (as r2r posters wrote)
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Dave1993
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salinity is fine if my salinity was high enough for 600+ calcium my fish would be dead also i mix the salt myself so i know how much salt i put in and i don't know if it was like that when i got it, it is in the middle of splitting it has a figure 8 on its skeleton it was completely fine untill i did a water change then it just went to ****
reefingaz
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For almost a year my Mag and Calcium were off the charts. Could not figure out why. Some corals looked bad, most looked fine, my fish were fine. I could not get my montipora to stop turning white. I calibrated my refractometer twice a week and it was always spot on 1.026.
Well I decided to buy a new bottle of calibration fluid and boy was I pi$$$. My salt was reading 1.031 on my two tanks!!!!. I could not believe it thought the new fluid was wrong so I went to a different store and bought another brand fluid and it also read 1.031. I threw away my original fluid and bought a 3rd one from yet another store to be safe. Now my tanks are at 1.026. I calibrate with all 3 fluids alternating. It’s been about 6 weeks since my discovery and my corals look amazing and my large montipora is about 95% colored up beautiful again.
Moral of my story. Don’t trust calibration fluid I will replace mine every year and always buy 2-3 different to be safe.
My estimates say it was 8-10 months of my tank running this high of salt levels all from my Calibration fluid being bad.
reefingaz
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Read my other response. Do yourself a favor and buy another calibration fluid. My tank was at 1.031 for months because of this. Thankfully I lost no fish but did lose some corals.
Shirak
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I use Randy's DIY calibration fluid for conductivity meters. I had the Hanna salinity checker and it was terrible. Never read correctly even after calibrating with their own fluid. I also have a refractometer which I calibrate weekly with Randy's DIY refractometer calibration fluid.
Your fish would not have an issue with salinity that would cause 600ppm Ca. Personally I think it's the Ca test but when Ca is off the charts salinity is worth mentioning. Usually though Alk and Mg and other things tied to salinity are also elevated.
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Dave1993
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Well my alk is 8.6 i think the calcium test is just wrong i have ordered 1 but it wont be here till the 20th the Torch is not retracted it is out its tentacles are deflated
cgripp256
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I would watch a couple videos on proper use of the Calcium checker. Biggest mistakes are not using 0 TDS RODI or distilled in step 1 and using the .1ml pipette incorrectly.
Resulting in too much reagent and a false high.
Shirak
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Yes I watched the video. Even if your Ca test is correct 600ppm Ca shouldn't be an issue. I have only seen it a few times personally and it is never a good thing. You mentioned a single MP40? Perhaps the one side got damaged from too much flow from the same direction? Is the powerhead on the opposite side of the damaged spot? It looks like the flesh is peeling up on the left.
Buy a $20 0.01g scale and make your own, follow Randys diy calibration fluid, table salt and rodi no need to keep buying them…or just buy a Tropic Marin hydrometer, they never need calibration, you can just use it to check your refractometer.
Kmst80
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I Would double check calcium with other test kit. I had calcium levels in the 500-600 until I bought a red sea test and bang calcium was at 350! Double checked and red sea test was consistent while Hanna checker was different each time.
EeyoreIsMySpiritAnimal
Just another girl who likes fish
Read the post below... It may not be anything you did or have control over.
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I found this on another forum and feel it's a good read for any of us who keep euphyllia...
Thread 'Euphyllia (especially torch coral) buying help' https://www.ultimatereef.net/threads/euphyllia-especially-torch-coral-buying-help.885184/
An exerpt:
"A major issue here is, apart from signs of recession of flesh these corals will look amazing right upto the point of death. I have countless times seen torch corals with their heads hanging off, at the point of no return still looking amazing with long flowing polyps and then stone cold dead the next day.
"To even an experienced eye deterioration in these corals is rarely noticed until one day when half the coral rots away or polyps float off. The owner normally assumes it is something they did recently, in reality the cascade of events that caused the death most likely happened months down the line.
"A slight change in flow, causing a microscopic nick, a bit of algae or stuck food, where flesh meets the skeleton, a drop in nutrient or starvation which caused flesh to retract a bit and cut on its sharp septa etc etc.. followed by an unseen bacterial infection and the slow spread through the coral over months. All hidden from the proud owners eye."
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Dave1993
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Torch doing much better now compare to video on page 1
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nitrates were sky high got them down abit now still got work to do though
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nitrates were sky high got them down abit now still got work to do though
