What is wrong with this Elegance coral

[omerseymen]

Hi guys, i have moved my elegance coral on the of a rock and added one more light to my aquarium but it didnt like the water movement there(too much flow i guess)
It wasnt looking healthy and then i placed it on the sand in the corner of my aquarium but here are the photos of it.

What can cause these white jellyish things?
Is ist dangerous for my tank, should i remove it and can i save my coral?

Thx.

Water parameters are
Nitrate 15
Ammonia 0
phosphate 0.02
Kh 8

 

[tzabor10]

Looks like it might be expelling zooxanthellae. What is your lighting setup?

 

[Uncle99]

Many elegance corals perish in under 3 months or so, even in the best of environments.

Be wary of this coral.

That’s why LFS puts on sale after 2 months, they know….

On the flip side, some people claim years on end.

 

[liddojunior]

It’s really irritated by something.

Those filaments are signs of it.

1) Sand could be on it and not enough flow

2) Can sense that goni and trying to be aggressive

3) Adjusitng to new flow and light situation. Not happy

4) Disease by bacterial infection. This issue of coral magazine had a really good article on treatment of elegance and rescue by marine biologist researchers

CORAL Magazine Table of Contents May/June 2024 - CORAL Magazine

CORAL DISEASES, Volume 21, Number 3

www.coralmagazine.com

 

[omerseymen]

Looks like it might be expelling zooxanthellae. What is your lighting setup?

I have 2 ai primes
1 aquareef F80
Here are the schedules:

 

[liddojunior]

Many elegance corals perish in under 3 months or so, even in the best of environments.

Be wary of this coral.

That’s why LFS puts on sale after 2 months, they know….

On the flip side, some people claim years on end.

Honestly this is why it’s best practice to only buy with full intact skeleton. And asking how long they have held the coral before selling.

Tidal gardens sold me one they have for more than half a year through QT. And it’s thriving in my tank.

They respond so poorly to fragging and it’s a shame some places get them in, instantly frag them and then try to sell before they die.

 

[Uncle99]

Honestly this is why it’s best practice to only buy with full intact skeleton. And asking how long they have held the coral before selling.

Tidal gardens sold me one they have for more than half a year through QT. And it’s thriving in my tank.

They respond so poorly to fragging and it’s a shame some places get them in, instantly frag them and then try to sell before they die.

I think holding and QT would go a long way at increasing survival rates, but my LFS just moves them along before the issues start. They want to turn mostly everything, monthly. I’d start to ask life expectancy on many LPS if I thought I’d get an honest answer.

They know the risk, just like Long tentacles Plates, but, if it dies with them, that’s a big loss. So that risk is reduced by moving them faster.

 

[omerseymen]

These are how it looked like on the top of a rock

And the last one was 3 weeks before

 

[liddojunior]

These are how it looked like on the top of a rock

And the last one was 3 weeks before

Needs more flow I think

The body extends but not the tentacles. And the body doesn’t look like it’s being pushed to one side so not a problem with too much flow

 

[Enad]

Unfortunately the white mucus is a telltale sign of Elegance Coral Syndrome. Your coral is very unlikely to survive unless you do a freshwater dip for 5-10 mins right away, but the a FWD is very risky and even if they survive the initial dip, the coral may never properly recover.

I've dealt with this numerous times. Right now, I'm trying to bring a Rasta Elegance back to life, making good progress but extremely slow recovery.

 

[omerseymen]

Unfortunately the white mucus is a telltale sign of Elegance Coral Syndrome. Your coral is very unlikely to survive unless you do a freshwater dip for 5-10 mins right away, but the a FWD is very risky and even if they survive the initial dip, the coral may never properly recover.

I've dealt with this numerous times. Right now, I'm trying to bring a Rasta Elegance back to life, making good progress but extremely slow recovery.

So, should i remove it from the tank?

 

[liddojunior]

So, should i remove it from the tank?

I don’t think that would help unless you have an established tank.

You should do some cocktail antibiotic baths or dips. The magazine for treatment is at home so can’t say the specific treatment plan.

But maybe try the KFC coral dip plan for BJD.

 

[Enad]

So, should i remove it from the tank?

I mean, it won't affect anything other than another Elegance. ECS has no known cure really, beyond trying a FWD and perhaps a series of Oxolinic Acid dips. I don't want to say don't bother trying, because I absolutely love Elegance and of course we all want to help our animals survive any illness, but it's going to be a very difficult recovery. I would try a 5 to 10 minute freshwater dip. It may kill it, but it'll die anyway if you don't try it.

 

[liddojunior]

I mean, it won't affect anything other than another Elegance. ECS has no known cure really, beyond trying a FWD and perhaps a series of Oxolinic Acid dips. I don't want to say don't bother trying, because I absolutely love Elegance and of course we all want to help our animals survive any illness, but it's going to be a very difficult recovery. I would try a 5 to 10 minute freshwater dip. It may kill it, but it'll die anyway if you don't try it.

The newest issue of coral magazine, actually shows marine scientist experiments and their findings. It shows a detailed protocol for treating ECS that led to recovered corals. But its extremely dependent on the stage of the disease, once it goes to tissue loss, it seems its too late to save any of it.

But ECS is scary, apparently it stays in the system and your system will no longer be safe for elegance corals.

 

[Enad]

The newest issue of coral magazine, actually shows marine scientist experiments and their findings. It shows a detailed protocol for treating ECS that led to recovered corals. But its extremely dependent on the stage of the disease, once it goes to tissue loss, it seems its too late to save any of it.

But ECS is scary, apparently it stays in the system and your system will no longer be safe for elegance corals.

Could you let me know which issue that is? I'd love to read this.

 

[liddojunior]

Could you let me know which issue that is? I'd love to read this.

It’s the most recent one! Here is a link. The cool part is how ACI started using this to treat their elegance corals

CORAL Magazine Table of Contents May/June 2024 - CORAL Magazine

CORAL DISEASES, Volume 21, Number 3

www.coralmagazine.com

 

[Coralnotquarrel]

Cured my elegance coral!

I bought a healthy appearing elegance coral in September from 1 store, did well for a week but then began to shrink up to the point of being mostly retracted in its skeleton and the tentacles 2-3mm nubs. Other corals doing fine. Read multiple stories of the same here... In January, went to...

www.reef2reef.com

 

[omerseymen]

Cured my elegance coral!

I bought a healthy appearing elegance coral in September from 1 store, did well for a week but then began to shrink up to the point of being mostly retracted in its skeleton and the tentacles 2-3mm nubs. Other corals doing fine. Read multiple stories of the same here... In January, went to...

www.reef2reef.com

Very nice, appreciate it!
I did the cipro for mine, it is getting better and i will try kfc dip like yours. Thanks