What should I use for wrasses?

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Hello everyone... I recieved an order or wrasses from live aquaria. 2 blue star leopards, 1 mckoskers flaser, 1 carpenter flasher, and 1 longfin fairy wrasse, and 1 orange and black fairy that was doa. Anyways I recieved my order on friday and acclimated them and put them in a bb 40 breeder with a heater, hob, and an airstone and pvc to hide in. Anyways the carpenter flasher layed on its side for 2 days and wouldn't swim at all. I got all the wrasses to eat roe,brine shrimp, and oyster feast but the carpenter is still kinda sluggish. His mouth is always open and breathing faster than the other 4 wrasses. It is also kinda pale. I need to know what I should medicate with. I have copper safe, prazipro, formalin ms. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
 
I would first perform a FW dip on the Carpenter (see below). This will tell you whether or not your shipment has flukes.

Freshwater Dip: Provides temporary relief for Brooklynella, Flukes, Marine Velvet disease (Amyloodinium); possibly even Ich & Uronema marinum (both unproven). Can be used to confirm the presence of Flukes.

How To Treat - Fill a bucket with RODI water, and use a heater to match the temperature to the water the fish is coming from. Aerate the water heavily for at least 30 minutes prior to doing the dip, then discontinue aeration while performing the dip. Fish aren’t overly pH sensitive for short durations like this, but you can squirt a little tank water into the dip just before the fish goes in to help bring it up.

Place the fish in the freshwater (FW) dip and observe closely. It is not unusual for them to freak out a little at first. Also, tangs are notorious for “playing dead” during a FW dip. The important thing is to watch their gills; they should be breathing heavily at all times during the dip. If breathing slows, it’s time to exit the dip. Dip the fish for no longer than 5 minutes. Multiple dips may be done, but it’s important to give your fish a day to recuperate in-between dips.

For flukes, use a dark (preferably black) bucket so you can see if tiny white worms fall out of the fish (especially out of the gills) at around the 3-4 minute mark. The worms will settle to the bottom, so you can use a flashlight to look for them there as well.

Pros - Provides temporary relief for a wide range of diseases in a chemical free environment. Can “buy you more time” until a proper treatment can be done.

Cons/Side Effects - Not a permanent “fix” for any disease, as FW dips are not potent enough to eradicate all of the parasites/worms afflicting the fish. Some fish can have an adverse reaction to a FW dip by appearing unable to maintain their equilibrium once returned to the aquarium. If this happens, hold the fish upright (using latex, nitrile or rubber gloves), and gently glide him through the water (to get saltwater flowing through the gills again). It is also a good idea to place the fish in an acclimation box until he appears “normal”.
 
And if they have flukes what should I use to medicate? A freshwater dip can kill the fish am I right? Since the fish are alive and eating would it be worth the risk of the fw dip or would it be better to just treat the qt tank with prazipro?
 
Btw I have a 150 gallon tank that is my rodi resivoir and it is both heated to the same temp as my reefs and qt and it is also aerated 24 7 with a 12 inch airstone so I guess I am able to fw dip without all the prep work.
 
Prazipro, fw dip can kill if left 2 long, 1st sign of disstress pull, but is effective sometimes but not for all. More of a determining thing unless internal parasites.
 
A fresh water dip for @ 1minute is all it take. If it has flukes, you'll know what to treat. If the other fish are ok, they won't need to be dipped.
 
I'll be getting a mccosker later this week. I ttm, slightly underdosing Prazipro once eating (I try for transfers 2-4). Then observe 3-4 weeks.
 
Ok so I have been inspecting him closely and it appears to me that his right side by pis pectoral fin it is puffy and the scales are raised up. I'm trying to get a pic but its sooooo hard with my galaxy. What could this be?
 
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And if they have flukes what should I use to medicate? A freshwater dip can kill the fish am I right? Since the fish are alive and eating would it be worth the risk of the fw dip or would it be better to just treat the qt tank with prazipro?

Prazipro treats flukes, but that's no walk in the park for wrasses either. I suggest underdosing slightly when using Prazi on wrasses. The reason for the FW dip is to confirm flukes, or rule them out so you can move on to the possibility of a parasite (such as ich) causing the heavy breathing.
 
Ok well I fw dipped him for 2 1/2 minutes and no worms but this was in the water afterwards. I basted around the gills with pipette. He also jumped out and landed on the floor when I put him in the fw dip. So I dont know if it came off of him or not. It is in a drop of water to relate size in pic.

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So, I'm almost sure it's not but it doesn't look anything like this little cutie does it? (Below)

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That looks similar to this I think...

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Your fish has an infection, possibly dropsy.
It's hard to cure this especially if you stress the fish more.
I use nitrofurazone full dose, kanamycin half dose, methylene blue full dose.
It will take some time before you see any difference. Change 50% water every other day and redose half. Kanamycin can be harsh if overdosed.
 

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