What to expect during the "ugly phase"

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What does the average aquarium go through during cycling?

Took a water sample to my lfs today and my Ammonia is 78ppm and Nitrite is 5ppm. Came home and the tank is looking a tad cloudy. Is this due to cycling? What are the average side effects during cycling??
 
I'm not feeding anything in the tank and won't put anything with a heartbeat in the tank until lfs gives gives me the thumbs up. Thank you for the quick response!! You always help answer my questions. You're awesome!!!!
 
I'm not feeding anything in the tank and won't put anything with a heartbeat in the tank until lfs gives gives me the thumbs up. Thank you for the quick response!! You always help answer my questions. You're awesome!!!!
Hey no problem. Its always good to hear all the experiences, because really every tank IS different. There's zero way to tell how its going to go because we have no Idea what'll happen till we put those specific rocks in the tank. There could be old stuff in them there might not be, either way is perfectly fine. But IMO dry rock takes a bit more patience as the bio filter takes much longer to mature. So rushing is particularly bad. And most problem algaes are introduced by US. Cyano is everywhere so don't sweat that. just avoid feeding it.
 
Gotcha. No feeding and I'm very patient. I'll keep everybody updated
 
Gotcha. No feeding and I'm very patient. I'll keep everybody updated
Actually if you are still cycling w/o fish. you should ghost feed. Feed daily as if you got LS in it. Bacteria would die if they don't have anything to break. Doing this will avoid mini cycles (random parameter spiking due to imbalances between LS and Bacteria) when you put livestock in your tank.
 
Ugly perios is just as it sounds and should last about 2 months. Cloudy water is very normal, algae is normal, brown sound normal, just about anything ugly you can imagine is normal. You should feed your tank as posted above a small amount of food per day.
 
Actually if you are still cycling w/o fish. you should ghost feed. Feed daily as if you got LS in it. Bacteria would die if they don't have anything to break. Doing this will avoid mini cycles (random parameter spiking due to imbalances between LS and Bacteria) when you put livestock in your tank.
Normally I'd agree but his tank has high ammonia as it is....id let it settle and wait for the ammonia amd nitrite to drop.
 
I'm using 65lbs BRS Fiji dry live rock, 1lb rock rubble in refugium and caribsea live sand
 
I'm using 65lbs BRS Fiji dry live rock, 1lb rock rubble in refugium and caribsea live sand
Personally I would not feed with ammonia that high. Sounds like you are on track. Just wait. Keep testing. Your tank might go through all kinds of different ugliness during the first year.
 
I was going to say a year too. When I set up my first tank I cycled for a month. I tested almost daily and watched the levels go up and back down. Then a month later the ugly algae phase started. I though it was something I was doing wrong. The lfs took advantage of this time selling everything known to man. Which eventually caused a bacterial bloom. I'm currently doing my 5th set up now. Ive had 2 fish in there for a month now, and phantom fed with a cleaner shrimp some two months before adding the fish. The Algae phase started about 2-3 weeks ago. I'll occasionally brush the top of the rocks off with a tooth brush (before my filter/water change) where the light is most intense. Lights turned down some. I May pick up a few good sized snails this weekend. They do wonders. But it will go away on its own. When coralline gets to be about nickle sized that's when I feel maturity is happening. Just remember, just because amonia drops doesn't give you the green light to put all the livestock you want in there. Refrain on going crazy. Every fish added is a mini cycle to the bio load. One fish every 3-4week is what I'm going for. Some recommend DR Tim's one time, which I probably will next time. The good thing about having multiple tanks is patients isn't so hard when you have two others to mess with.
 
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I spoke with a guy I work with who suggested purchasing 2 raw shrimp and putting them in the tank to help cycle. Is this a good idea to give the tank bacteria?
 
I'm quite excited to actually be able to detect nitrates today. 2. No GFO, carbon, or carbon dosing. Everything is hooked up and ready, Just shut off and waiting for everything to mature on its own. So I'm interested to see if over the course of the next two weeks the nitrates climb or goes back to undetectable. Depending on which way it goes I may add a pair of clowns in a week or two. A few weeks after that hopefull some sps frags. I'm really wanting to keep this tank at 2 nitrates without the need of anything except for some macro and a skimmer, despite having the ability. This is the first time I've started a tank without a million dollars worth of live rock. The good thing is adding fish from copper, ich shouldn't exist. The bad news is, the ugly stage is worse. :).



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I spoke with a guy I work with who suggested purchasing 2 raw shrimp and putting them in the tank to help cycle. Is this a good idea to give the tank bacteria?

No, the idea is the shrimp supplies ammonia to grow bacteria. You don't need it.

During the first year tanks are prone to problem outbreaks before they reach equilibrium, although you might have no such problem. In addition to populating bacteria, other factors are nutrients given off by dry rocks, and the learning curve the aquarist has re the aquarium.
 
Tested my water yesterday and ammonia has gone down substantially!! I tested around 0.8. Nitrites and Nitrates are still very high
 

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