What would you do??????

[Beach Bum]

I have a question for those of you out there.
How and what do you think should be done if you
Buy a high high end chalice frag for over $450 for 2 eyes from a private
Seller it is packed awesome. Communications throught are great.
But after 3 hrs in your tank and by the 4 hr it has completed melted away
to nothing handle the situation ? To the sellers defense he will send another frag for $200
More .. But I think I have learned my lesson.
Also tank is full off other high end coral and is thriving so its
Not the water . I am sure a highly regarded member of reef2reef
Will agree with me on this and was with me when this melted away.
Just want to see. What you all think.
Thanks

 

[Loki]

It happens. How did you acclimate it?


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[returnofsid]

New corals, especially if stressed, can become targets for some fish and inverts.

 

[LivinTheSwreefLife]

How was it acclimated and did you dip it in anything prior to adding?

 

[Beach Bum]

Drip for about 30 min
Didn't look stress but also don't know if it was a fresh cut was growing a rim but was not fully around yet.
I think the coral was not ready to ship yet.
Looks to me it wa rushed to sell and not healed. Not that is my problem . Not the shipping if healthy in my system I would have no
Problem

Now that is my problem

 

[skinz78]

Can you post pic's of both your system and of the coral upon arrival and then 4 hrs later?

 

[Beach Bum]

Can you post pic's of both your system and of the coral upon arrival and then 4 hrs later?

No pic of when I started the drip but here is right when it when in my tank

Tank shots

Left side

Right side

Frag now

 

[o2manyfish]

You said at 3 hrs it started to detriorate.

So when it arrived, properly packed it looked okay or good in the packaging?

And when you were acclimating it looked good in your acclimation setup ?

I think in this case it's a coral that seems to have arrived well. If the coral was unstable because it was to fresh to ship, then all that time in transit without fresh water should have been the time for it to go downhill.

I don't think you can (or should) blame the seller. Corals are a live commodity and being such thats a risk we take maintaining a live hobby.

If the seller made you an offer to replace it at a discounted price, I think that is fair and reasonable given the by your story the coral died once it was in your control and out of his.

It's a shame this was such an expensive coral, but could have happened to a coral of any value.

Dave B

 

[Beach Bum]

You said at 3 hrs it started to detriorate.

So when it arrived, properly packed it looked okay or good in the packaging?

And when you were acclimating it looked good in your acclimation setup ?

I think in this case it's a coral that seems to have arrived well. If the coral was unstable because it was to fresh to ship, then all that time in transit without fresh water should have been the time for it to go downhill.

I don't think you can (or should) blame the seller. Corals are a live commodity and being such thats a risk we take maintaining a live hobby.

If the seller made you an offer to replace it at a discounted price, I think that is fair and reasonable given the by your story the coral died once it was in your control and out of his.

It's a shame this was such an expensive coral, but could have happened to a coral of any value.

Dave B

I hear with what your saying ...
Here is one more pick that Shows how stressed it was and again was it ready to ship?
If you look real close you can see the peeling already starting

 

[bct15]

I don't get chalices anymore because of this, they RTN if parameters are not perfect when introducing to a tank...especially a tank that supports a lot of sps. I'm not you so I don't experience this first hand, but from your description it sounds like the seller did eveything right and it is a tank issue. I have a single comment;

IMO drip acclimating is not a good acclimation method for anything, especially sensitive corals. I have learned that the most important part of acclimating is temperature acclimating. In drip acclimating the water is being added so slow the water has cooled to room temp before it even reaches the specimen, when you add the specimen to you system with the warmer water it can be detrimental and fatal to the coral. The second most important part is matching alk and ph, which only 30 minutes of dripping will not do. I hate to say it but I think the coral was not properly acclimated, and the stress temp change along with parameter changes caused the overly sensitive chalice to RTN after being introduced to your system. Check out this acclimation process I that works great;

Poor the contents of your shipping item into a Tupperware container that is sized properly to fully submerge the specimen in its shipping water. (you can also measure parameters like alk, cal and mag of you want but by necessary.

Float the container in your tank for at least thirty minutes to temp acclimate.

Add a small amount of tank water using a red cup or shot glass and continue floating container.

Repeat adding small amount of water every twenty minutes to half hour.

When the container is near full discard half the water and continue adding a small amount of water every twenty to thirty minutes while still floating the container in your system.

After the container is full the second time (or parameters of your acclimating water are nearly identical to your system) add the specimen to your system.

This acclimation process covers temp and parameter acclimation.


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