Whats wrong with my sailfin

[Bluerrpilot]

Had this guy in QT for 3 weeks with no issues and eating from my hand. Transferred to DT that has 4 anthias, 2 clowns and tomini tang. 4 days later he looks like this. All other fish look fine. Still eats very well and shows no other signs of distress. Hard to see and get a good pic but the spots that are showing are more like bumps. Fins have some blotchy white.

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Three weeks is pretty short for a comprehensive quarantine. What did you treat it with during that time?
The first picture looks pretty good, but the other two show issues- could be later stage ich, or velvet. Any sense if the fish is breathing faster than it was?
Jay

 

[vetteguy53081]

Sounds like intimidation and likely tomini.
How is its swimming and breathing?
Is its poop normal or white?
Ammonia and nitrate levels?

 

[Bluerrpilot]

First pic is from first day in DT after QT. Next two are from this morning. Fish has no noticeable beathing or swimming issues and still eats from my hand. There was no treatment done, just observation. Fish came from LFS treating with copper in their tanks.

The sailfin and tomini get along great and have been together the whole time. Zero on ammonia and nitrite and nitrate is almost undetectable.

also, there are zero white spots anywhere on the fish other than the blotchy marks on the fins. These all appear to be under the skin

 

[Sleeping Giant]

Looks like ICH, my sailfin had to stay in QT for 40 days...it would come and go, then finally died off

 

[Hincapiej4]

Yep. I'm gonna put my money on ICH.

 

[Bluerrpilot]

ok, I thought ick would have white "salt" like spots but they may not have come to the surface yet.

 

[Hincapiej4]

ok, I thought ick would have white "salt" like spots but they may not have come to the surface yet.

If I were you, I'd wish for ICH. If not, it's velvet......

 

[Hincapiej4]

Might wanna put a better pic...

 

[Sleeping Giant]

ok, I thought ick would have white "salt" like spots but they may not have come to the surface yet.

The fins look covered

 

[Bluerrpilot]

I just took these...best I could get.

Wouldn't ick and velvet be covered in "sugar"
Could this be flukes ?

 

[j.falk]

Your tank looks very new...both the sand and the rocks are dead white.

 

[Debramb]

Beautiful fish

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

ok, I thought ick would have white "salt" like spots but they may not have come to the surface yet.

Early stage ich shows the classic "salt spots", after awhile, the spots tend to become more diffuse, with cloudy edges...like this. Rapid breathing would point more to velvet, and the fact that it's still eating well leads me to conclude that it is ich. You'll need to treat it with copper, and the other fish have been exposed as well. Can you just treat the tank its in?

Jay

p.s. - I just saw your later pics - no spots? It must be the lighting.

 

[Bluerrpilot]

no spots, that is what is confusing.

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

See the spots on the fish's pectoral fins and body in the second and third photo above? Are those gone now? When ich first starts up, the life cycle is more or less "in sync" and the spots can come and go. Typically though, yo0u only see that at the very beginning, not when there are more spots like that in the earlier photos, at that point, the parasites become out of sync and you see spots all the time.

Jay

 

[Mr. Fishy Fish]

I just took these...best I could get.

Wouldn't ick and velvet be covered in "sugar"
Could this be flukes ?

You could do a FW dip to verify the flukes. Just do it in a black bucket or a dark bucket. You should see little white specs come out if it's flukes. If nothing comes out, then you know you're dealing with something else.

 

[Bluerrpilot]

UPDATE: The tank has been given a treatment with Prazi for flukes. I cannot catch this tang without tearing down the tank or seriously stressing it out. He is still eating well and all other fish in tank look fine. Here is the latest pic and the bumps are now showing as white spots. Any suggestions on what should be done next

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Ah, I’m still seeing Cryptocaryon (ich) on this fish. What other fish are in the tank with it? None of them are showing spots? Reef safe ich meds rarely work at this stage. Copper or possibly TTM are the only truly effective options.
Jay

 

[Bluerrpilot]

4 anthias and a clown