When can I get an anemone, also what kind?

[Katrina71]

Didn't you recently add several fish to your new tank? I may be mistaken. I think your tank will experience many ups and downs in the near future. If anything, they might find comfort with a Frogspawn. One with at least 4 heads. Even that will feel the strain of your tank changes. Jmo.

 

[Daniel91]

First off, your clowns do not need a host to be happy.

Secondly, the general rule of thumb is 6-12 months before adding an anemone - this gives the reef some time to stabilize, build a secure biofilter AND gives the aquarist room to familiarize with do’s, don’ts, needed husbandry etc.

With this, some people add an anemone right after the initial cycle and has success. Some people wait longer than a year and are unsuccessful.
No reef or aquarist is the same - you can add it whenever you want, just make sure you and you aquarium is ready.

 

[Philipgonzales3]

If you do want decoration in there that is safe for the fishes and water etc. HERE is a link to resin cast items I found the link in a thread here on R2R when I saw a cool star wars themed tank covered in corals.

I noticed that some of the cast items had silicone looking anemones on the top of them, like this one.

https://www.bigalspets.com/underwater-treasures-anemone-cluster-on-rock-yellow.html

I actually have a fake anemone from the same vendor I believe. I wonder if these will hold up any better. I know you were talking about the all resin decorations but I can't help but wonder.

 

[Why-Me]

"Non-toxic - safe for freshwater and saltwater aquariums"
Quoted from that link posted, that being said I have no clue whether it will hold up better than the ones you already have.

 

[justmee]

Your clowns do not need a host. They'll get along just fine without one until your tank is ready for it. I wouldn't feel bad at all taking all that fake stuff out and letting them do their thing. They'll find a powerhead or a corner of the tank to hang out in without shedding a tear. Plus you won't have all that plastic for algae/dinos to grow on and the tank would look much more natural.

+1

Totally agree.

 

[Philipgonzales3]

Didn't you recently add several fish to your new tank? I may be mistaken. I think your tank will experience many ups and downs in the near future. If anything, they might find comfort with a Frogspawn. One with at least 4 heads. Even that will feel the strain of your tank changes. Jmo.

Yes, I posted my stocking list, which shows how long ago the fish were added.



I know that the popular opinion is that this tank was stocked too quickly. I think that popular opinion is wrong, based on my stocking of previous freshwater tanks. I've added 15 cichlids in a 55 gallon tank in one go. Also added 11 fish to my son's freshwater tank and no signs of ammonia. I believe that as far as beinificial bacteria you can stock up right away, as long as you have enough BB.

I've included a quote from my previous threads that shows why I believe this. I am not trying to be argumentative, I am just stating my opinion and I value each and everyone's opinion. Even those I may not agree with.

I am here to learn and I have learned a lot so far and still have a lot to learn. I could very well be wrong in some of the things I think, and I think this is all part of learning.

Sorry for the rant just wanted to explain my position.

...If it was just luck it would not be repeatable over and over again.

http://www.fishforums.net/threads/cycling-your-new-fresh-water-tank-read-this-first.421488/

"A major benefit of this fishless cycling method is that you can now fully stock your tank in one go. This means an average stocking level for your tank size. It certainly does not mean you can stock heavily or over stock"

http://www.fishforums.net/threads/full-stock-after-fishless-cycle.437496/

"Yes, I have fully stocked tanks this way many times. This is one of the benefits of doing a fishless cycle. If one wants to stock gradually, they can do a fishless cycle using smaller amounts of ammonia since less bacteria is needed for this process. The less bacteria one needs the sooner one can reach those numbers. However, failing to take advantage of the full stocking usually means one is reverting to fish in cycling methodolgy as later fish are stocked. This means you may have to deal with some level of both ammonia or nitrite spikes

No, one should not add ammonia to a tank containing fish or inverts."

http://www.fishforums.net/threads/how-many-fish-can-i-add-after-a-fishless-cycle.290977/

"One of the benefits of fishless cycling is you have a decent biofilter in place when finished.

As it says in Fishless Cycling Advice you can pretty much fully stock when completed.
When my finished, I added 12 largish tetras and 2 angels."

 

[shred5]

A big part depends on your experience and what anemone do you want?

A BTA is much easier than a gigantia or magnifica so a BTA is better for someone new to the hobby, plus captive bred BTA's can be had so that is one less anemone out of the ocean if you fail.

A BTA is what I would start out with anyway.

Clowns do not need a anemone either so I would not worry to much and as a matter of fact you may get a anemone and they may not host anyway.

 

[Katrina71]

Yes, I posted my stocking list, which shows how long ago the fish were added.



I know that the popular opinion is that this tank was stocked too quickly. I think that popular opinion is wrong, based on my stocking of previous freshwater tanks. I've added 15 cichlids in a 55 gallon tank in one go. Also added 11 fish to my son's freshwater tank and no signs of ammonia. I believe that as far as beinificial bacteria you can stock up right away, as long as you have enough BB.

I've included a quote from my previous threads that shows why I believe this. I am not trying to be argumentative, I am just stating my opinion and I value each and everyone's opinion. Even those I may not agree with.

I am here to learn and I have learned a lot so far and still have a lot to learn. I could very well be wrong in some of the things I think, and I think this is all part of learning.

Sorry for the rant just wanted to explain my position.

I'm not trying to even counter your position. I think 70 days for that much bioload is a lot unless you started with mature live rock. I just don't want to see a dying nem nuke your tank. I'm only offering my opinion. Take it or don't. Happy Reefing

 

[Florida Sunshine]

What lights do you have? Anemones in general need rather strong lighting. Some more than others.
If you have solid lights, then I would give the tank at least 6 months and preferably a year to mature and settle down.

 

[justmee]

I noticed that some of the cast items had silicone looking anemones on the top of them, like this one.

https://www.bigalspets.com/underwater-treasures-anemone-cluster-on-rock-yellow.html

I actually have a fake anemone from the same vendor I believe. I wonder if these will hold up any better. I know you were talking about the all resin decorations but I can't help but wonder.

If I were you, I would not put anything fake in your tank. Again, be patient, and let your tank slowly grow.

In the mean time, keep on doing research on what you want and see if they're compatible.

 

[Philipgonzales3]

"Non-toxic - safe for freshwater and saltwater aquariums"
Quoted from that link posted, that being said I have no clue whether it will hold up better than the ones you already have.

That's what this one said too. I'll be sure to add a review so that others can hopefully avoid it.

https://m.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=33130

 

[Philipgonzales3]

What lights do you have? Anemones in general need rather strong lighting. Some more than others.
If you have solid lights, then I would give the tank at least 6 months and preferably a year to mature and settle down.

2 x SBReefer Sbox 16" Extreme Wi-Fi. I mentioned this in my first post but I do tend to write some long winded posts.

 

[Why-Me]

You just need a build thread

 

[Philipgonzales3]

A big part depends on your experience and what anemone do you want?

A BTA is much easier than a gigantia or magnifica so a BTA is better for someone new to the hobby, plus captive bred BTA's can be had so that is one less anemone out of the ocean if you fail.

A BTA is what I would start out with anyway.

Clowns do not need a anemone either so I would not worry to much and as a matter of fact you may get a anemone and they may not host anyway.

Thanks for the info. I know almost nothing about anemones yet. I think BTA is bubble tip anemone and have heard of them and have had the only two reefers I know in real life tell me this is the one to get. I don't consider these two people "experts", not that it's relavent but just throwing that out there. I will make sure to check out BTA's for when I am ready to add one (or should I say when my tank is ready!)

 

[Philipgonzales3]

You just need a build thread

That I do. Haha I keep saying I don't have time, but yet here I am on R2R for hours a day haha. In my defense we packed a lot of stuff today.

 

[Why-Me]

Don't need to go into it really deep just tell everyone when you started cycle, fish and where you are now to catch them up. No need for a book.

 

[Philipgonzales3]

Don't need to go into it really deep just tell everyone when you started cycle, fish and where you are now to catch them up. No need for a book.

Have you seen my posts! I seem to ramble haha. I'll see what I can do. I'll try to start one here in a few minutes and see how far I get.

 

[Philipgonzales3]

So based on the responses (thank you everyone for the advice), I will wait until the 6th month mark at the very least.

As far as the fake decorations, I like the idea of having some fake decorations until I get real corals and an anemone and what not. That being said I do not feel comfortable with the one that is falling apart. At the very least I will remove the one that I know is/will deteriorate and keep an eye on the other ones.

 

[Why-Me]

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/youre-in-trouble-and-in-danger.317089/

 

[Jon Fishman]

In my opinion, you can start adding rock flower anemones now. They're not for hosting clowns but will tell you if your water is ok by how they do. If the RFAs do ok, you could consider adding a BTA at about 6 months in. I'd also suggest removing the artificial nems, the clowns really don't need them even if they seem to enjoy them. A BTA isn't a natural host for these percula clowns but they may take to it anyway. A long tentacle anemone could also work at that point. The carpet anemones and ritteri which are natural hosts are also generally much harder to keep successfully.

I have a couple of these as test subjects too, awaiting a bubble tip. Good advice