when does a coral become a colony?

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At what point does a acropora or montipora, birdsnest becomes a colony?
Is it when there is 5 or more branches or 10 or more or is it size ? Is it when you start fragging it and giving frags away? Or SWAG ( scientific wild butt quess)
Here is a couple random pictures for my fellow coral pervs.

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At what point does a acropora or montipora, birdsnest becomes a colony?
Is it when there is 5 or more branches or 10 or more or is it size ? Is it when you start fragging it and giving frags away? Or SWAG ( scientific wild *** quess)
Here is a couple random pictures for my fellow coral pervs.

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Very nice. I’d call those mini colonies as of now, the birdsnest is close to calling a colony. My definition is: when you can no longer easily keep track of new branches/baby heads and watch each one grow out; basically when the coral gets to the point where you say, “whoa! When did those branches/heads start growing! “ and the new growth is fragable sized.
 
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When it has multiplied several times to the point it has space requirements and can be fragged
 
Very subjective but for me a colony is when I can very easily take good size frags off the colony. No I'm not taling about 1/4 inch frags. This is usually abou the size that @AdamNC is talking about, baseball size. Of course, it varys with different corals as well. Euphyllia compared to acros for example.
 
I have the answer. So in my experience a coral that I have been growing out for a couple of years would have turned into a colony, but I killed it a day prior. Kind of like getting to the middle of a blowpop, the world may never know (yes I am old).
 
I've written an algorithm that will decide when a coral frag has become a colony... unfortunately, I can't share it because of a CA with NASA. :0)

Totally subjective. To me, a colony is pretty big. Anything else is a mini colony or still a frag. Also depends on the species.
 
I wouldn’t call those colonies yet. But they are well on their way to becoming colonies real soon.


Agreed!

I do not think there is a set size.. There is a point where they are a mini colony.

It also seems colony size nowadays is much smaller. I see colony for sale and look and go wait that not a colony it is a large frag...
 
Not sure it's so simple to define what a colony is, but maybe a little easier to make a few statements of what a colony isn't.
-If it's loose, on a plug or on a disk, it's a frag not a colony.
-if you can still see the glue or putty holding the base on the rock, it's a frag not a colony.
-if it only has one point of attachment to the rock, it's a frag not a colony.
-if you're trying to sell it to me, it's a frag not a colony :p
 
I define it somewhat overall size, I think most importantly after it grown out enough it takes natural form/structure and intended color. Like stags have be a decent 12” multi branch forming in a circular mass, where as my wwc Heartbreaker/pc supermman tables grow merely 2.5” into a mature colony (two extremes for ex).

These pictures are 11 months apart you can see the foxflame measures 3.5” and the freak of nature tenius is about 2x2”x3.5” T they’re small mature colonies but the giant green acro didn’t show it’s true form on until it was 5” W x 7”Lx 3” tall (currently add 1.5-2in to all measurements). Example my definition.

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Never (or very soon). A colony means a number of individuals. When a coral gets a colony it means it has developed a number of polyps or mouthes.

In my opinion a coral never gets a colony because also an individual with a great many of polyps and mouthes remains an individual, even when fragments of the same individual are spread over a large area. A coral is an individual of modular structure, like plants. No one would call the leaves of a shrub individuals. So a coral remains a coral and never gets a colony, like a shrub remains a shrub, also with many branches and leaves.
 

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