Which wrasse to keep together and which to keep apart?

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I think this is a great question that many people find themselves asking when they decide to add wrasse to their tank.

Also when is it best to add the different wrasse to your tank? All at once?
 
Tagging along. I've got a pair of Flame wrasse, a leopard wrasse and recently added a mystery wrasse.

To that end, I want to add a trio of Rhomboid wrasse.....yes, I'm a wrasse freak....lol.

Any info from personal experience would be a big help.
 
Tagging along. I've got a pair of Flame wrasse, a leopard wrasse and recently added a mystery wrasse.

To that end, I want to add a trio of Rhomboid wrasse.....yes, I'm a wrasse freak....lol.

Any info from personal experience would be a big help.

Mystery wrasses usually don't play well with other wrasses and you will more than likely have issues adding new fairy's to your tank. Rhomboid and Flame wrasses should be fine together.
 
First rule for me is keep the mystery/six lines out of the fairy/flasher tanks, it rarely goes well in the end.

Some of the F&F's that don't mix well most of the time or should be added last(this varies for different tanks and circumstances) include

Scott's
Redfin
Pylei
Condei
And many others are very capable of becoming trouble makers. Always use an acclimation box to allow them to get used to each other and have a backup plan for your fish in case it doesn't go well. Learning to use a fish trap is great practice too. Fortunately on many occasions the most boisterious are the easiest to catch. Having many hiding places and feeding well can also go along way with aggression.
 
I have rhomboid Pair, flame wrasse pair, and a newly added male Lineatus Wrasse. They all get along great together. I couldn't be happy with the group of them.
 
First rule for me is keep the mystery/six lines out of the fairy/flasher tanks, it rarely goes well in the end.

Some of the F&F's that don't mix well most of the time or should be added last(this varies for different tanks and circumstances) include

Scott's
Redfin
Pylei
Condei
And many others are very capable of becoming trouble makers. Always use an acclimation box to allow them to get used to each other and have a backup plan for your fish in case it doesn't go well. Learning to use a fish trap is great practice too. Fortunately on many occasions the most boisterious are the easiest to catch. Having many hiding places and feeding well can also go along way with aggression.
pretty much sums it up. :)

you can add tono's fairy and long fin fairy to the list too. there's a lot of experienced reefers here on R2R that have dealt with most F&F wrasse on all price range so if anyone is thinking of putting a list together, don't hesitate to post what your thinking... (what wrasses, what order, how many, etc...) this thread will serve as a good guideline though as I've seen some of the wrasse experts have already posted. ;)
 
Great info and i am thinking of putting a list together. :)
 
revhtree said:
Great info and i am thinking of putting a list together. :)

Great idea rev, I was thinking of doing the same thing since so many people are curious including myself.
 
First rule for me is keep the mystery/six lines out of the fairy/flasher tanks, it rarely goes well in the end.

Some of the F&F's that don't mix well most of the time or should be added last(this varies for different tanks and circumstances) include

Scott's
Redfin
Pylei
Condei
And many others are very capable of becoming trouble makers. Always use an acclimation box to allow them to get used to each other and have a backup plan for your fish in case it doesn't go well. Learning to use a fish trap is great practice too. Fortunately on many occasions the most boisterious are the easiest to catch. Having many hiding places and feeding well can also go along way with aggression.

Well said Brett! I'd also add the Four Line to the don't mix list as well.
 
my limited experience would be to add Temminckii and Lubbocks to the don't mix well list. Maybe even the condei?
 
Great info and i am thinking of putting a list together. :)
I have a list already (along with an extensive write-up extend on this subject), although it's hosted on another forum. As it originated on that forum, the forum owner has asked me to keep it there. I'll gladly link everyone to it with your permission.

Well said Brett! I'd also add the Four Line to the don't mix list as well.
Let's just take this a step further, as you can generalize the mixing of wrasse by what genera mix and which do not. I aruge ANY species of the Pseudocheilinus genus (with the exception of the Pink-Streak) does not belong with other wrasses at all, regardless of genus.
Almost all Cirrhilabrus and Paracheilinus wrasses can be mixed together. But it's here that there are some species-by-species exceptions.
Macropharyngodon wrasses can also be mixed with the above two genera, but mixing multiple Macropharyngodon species in the same tank may need to be done with caution.
A small sub-set of Halichoeres wrasses are also suitable for mixing with the above three genera.

my limited experience would be to add Temminckii and Lubbocks to the don't mix well list. Maybe even the condei?
Temminickii are hit/miss with regards to aggression; it's really close to a 50/50 split there. Mixing there, depends on the level of experience of the aquarist.
Lubbocki generally aren't overly aggressive. Occasionally they are, however. Usually, they'll stand their ground quite well, but generally are all bark and little bite.
Condei was in that list, and that's generally true.

Herein lies the difficulty in writing about this subject; it's all rather subjective. Mixing wrasses isn't an exact science, as you never quite know what you'll get. It's a matter of the personality of each and every wrasse. Generalizations can be made, and we can make such by building off the experience base of various keepers, but there's never a perfect answer.

-Hunter Hammond
 
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Hey Hunter, thanks for your thoughts. I've seen your article and I think it's great. I agree, as far as the fairies go it depends on the fish with many species. I've also noticed a lot of times age plays a big role. What's weird is Ive seen females be on the mean side but then young males be easy going until they reach adults and then get more aggressive.
 
Thank you kindly, Brett.
We agree there, and I've found the same thing. Females are generally worse, and that's exceptionally true with a few Cirrhilabrus species. Lineatus comes to mind there.
Young males are pretty easy going. Sure, some adult males can get a temper, but degree of this is generally consistent for specific species. Scott's come to mind here, in that adult males are almost always belligerent.

Anymore, I like to start with smaller specimens, either juvi's or sub males. Not only is it fun to watch them grow and transition into terminal males, but everyone tends to get along much better in this fashion.
 
Do you find smaller ones do better as new comers than larger ones. Are they any more or less likely to be picked on in your experience?
 
I find it's not a matter of how big or how small, but rather who's a similar size. It seems the "bully" is almost always whomever is nearest in size to the new arrival. If they're much larger, they'll leave them alone. If they're much smaller, they're not preceived as a threat.

However, too small is definitely possible. Then the new arrival is simply overwhelmed by the pre-existing tankmates, and almost always ends up stressed to death. However, I'm talking like the 1-1.5" mark when eveyone else is 3"+. Anymore, I'm not even interested in a fish if it's <2".
 

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