While we're at it...

[alexkharden]

I got such amazing responses from the ERM thread, I thought I'd post this and see if anyone could help me identify it. There's a raised spot on my majestic angelfish, with kinda a puffy whiteness underneath the scales.

I started with thinking ich, then to dropsy, but now I don't think it's either. Now I just flat out don't know. The lateral line is fairly pronounced, but doesn't look bad like HLLE, so I'm at a loss.

The fish swims normally and eats fine and even seems to graze the rocks. The only possible behavioral thing I've noticed is it swims kind of jerky sometimes, like it's darting forward. It's doing that less and less though, as it gets settled into its new home.

Thoughts?

 

[melypr1985]

Did he go through QT at all? Do they move at all? Also, can you get her out to do a freshwater dip? Those whitish areas look suspiciously like oval-like shapes. It would be weird for flukes to be that visible on the fish and in saltwater, but a fw dip would rule that out really quick.

Could also be an infection setting in. which is usually secondary to some other problem like flukes, ick, velvet ect.

 

[cmcoker]

Agree suspicious for flukes, there is also another spot on the body just under the dorsal fin near the head, don't know if you noticed that one...

The jerky behavior would fit too, any yawning or head shaking?

 

[melypr1985]

Agree suspicious for flukes, there is also another spot on the body just under the dorsal fin near the head, don't know if you noticed that one...

I did see that one. It's pretty suspect.

 

[alexkharden]

I'm feeding metro flakes now, would that help? Is extraction necessary I guess is the question.

 

[cmcoker]

I'm feeding metro flakes now, would that help? Is extraction necessary I guess is the question.

I belive praziquantil is more effective on external parasites like fluke.

Prazipro can be used in the display, however I would try and catch that fish and confirm flukes before treatment as prazipro can kill off worms and feather dusters, if you have a lot it could spike ammonia. So, personally, I would want to confirm its necessary before using.

From Humblefish s sticky on medication :
Medications that are “reef safe”:
Prazipro - may kill tube worms/feather dusters and bristle worms. If you have lots of tiny feather dusters and/or bristle worms in your tank (usually down in the sump), the resulting die-off can lead to an ammonia spike.

 

[alexkharden]

I should be ok then. I've tried to introduce bristle worms on a couple of occasions, but the blenny's keep ripping them apart. No other worms. A few small feather dusters, but not enough to cause a spike. Now I need to do the math to see if using enough prazi-pro to treat 300 gallons is worth it.

What about shrimp/crabs/corals? I assume they're ok?

 

[Humblefish]

I'm thinking bacterial infection. There are some flexibacteriosis that live in SW (i.e. Flexibacter maritimus) and this looks very similar to Columnaris in FW fish: http://www.fishvet.com/columnaris.htm

However, I wouldn't completely rule out Lymphocystis as a possibility either. I've seen it start on the body instead of on the fins, especially with large angels.

 

[alexkharden]

I'm thinking bacterial infection. There are some flexibacteriosis that live in SW (i.e. Flexibacter maritimus) and this looks very similar to Columnaris in FW fish: http://www.fishvet.com/columnaris.htm

However, I wouldn't completely rule out Lymphocystis as a possibility either. I've seen it start on the body instead of on the fins, especially with large angels.

Prazipro and metro flakes wouldn't help with a bacterial infection, would they?

 

[Humblefish]

Prazipro and metro flakes wouldn't help with a bacterial infection, would they?

Metro treats anaerobic bacterial fish diseases, which are rare & this is unlikely to be.

 

[Justin D]

You can call seachem and they will ask you to send them pics and they well tell you what it is and what you should use they help me every time there the best