White spot on fin
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Now the other thread got deleted but not this one. Ok, I'll repost here. Please someone delete the first post.
I just found a white spot on the fin of my newly moved-in trigger. He moved in just last Thursday and I didn't notice it earlier today, just now. I'm panicking since I've been wishing and waiting for a trigger for so long. He's the only fish in the tank except one lawmower blenny. Parameters are good.
It's hard to get a picture because he's not holding still and it's on the other site from the one he's usually hanging out relative to the front of the tank, so here is a video, hopefully you can see it.
Is this ich? Could this possibly be from a bite? I saw the blenny charge at him earlier.
I just found a white spot on the fin of my newly moved-in trigger. He moved in just last Thursday and I didn't notice it earlier today, just now. I'm panicking since I've been wishing and waiting for a trigger for so long. He's the only fish in the tank except one lawmower blenny. Parameters are good.
It's hard to get a picture because he's not holding still and it's on the other site from the one he's usually hanging out relative to the front of the tank, so here is a video, hopefully you can see it.
Is this ich? Could this possibly be from a bite? I saw the blenny charge at him earlier.
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tupes
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Sorry to say but that was your first mistake. There it's only one lfs near me that i wouldn't worry about qt-ing fish. Unless you are very familiar with the qt process of the lfs you should qt the the fish yourself. Inspect his fins very closely for white specks. Sometimes you can barely see them.
HotRocks
Fish Fanatic!
That looks more like lympho to me than ich. Keep an eye on it. If it is lympho a good healthy diet and vitamin enriched foods will help. I use selcon and Vita chem. Pristine water is also very helpful.
https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/lymphocystis.257461/
I also do highly recommend QT for all new fish arrivals.
https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/lymphocystis.257461/
I also do highly recommend QT for all new fish arrivals.
Thank you!
Could it possibly be a fungus that needs treatment? Do I understand correctly that lympho usually isn't fatal? Can it go away on it's own or will the white spot just stay?
Also, I know I should quarantine every new fish and will do with every addition, but since they were literally the first fish in the tank I though it will be ok. Also, the trigger was staying at the LFS (in the back) for over 3 weeks prior to me picking him up and didn't develop anything obvious in that time.
Could it possibly be a fungus that needs treatment? Do I understand correctly that lympho usually isn't fatal? Can it go away on it's own or will the white spot just stay?
Also, I know I should quarantine every new fish and will do with every addition, but since they were literally the first fish in the tank I though it will be ok. Also, the trigger was staying at the LFS (in the back) for over 3 weeks prior to me picking him up and didn't develop anything obvious in that time.
I thought that way once also. First fish in the tank.....but that first fish turned out to have ich! And then I had to remove it to quarantine and go fallow. So it ended up costing me more time. And the stress of catching my fish and putting it into a quarantine so I could treat it. Hopefully you are luckier than I was.
The lympho spot can go away on its own. But only if it has good nutrition and clean water. Good luck with them both. HotRocks gave you good information on that.
Shelley
And the stress of catching my fish and putting it into a quarantine so I could treat it. Hopefully you are luckier than I was. The lympho spot can go away on its own. But only if it has good nutrition and clean water. Good luck with them both. HotRocks gave you good information on that.
Shelley
Bear with me, I'm fairly new to the hobby 
I'm so worried for the trigger. I hope it's nothing more serious like ich or a fungus. What signs should I monitor for? He's eating alright and I don't think it has grown since yesterday, but it's really hard to tell (since he's still shy and just wouldn't let me come up close)
I'm currently feeding this in a mix with mysis multiple times a day to fatten him up. It says it has vitamines, but he's spitting out a lot of what he doesn't like, so not sure if he's getting the vitamines?
I'm so worried for the trigger. I hope it's nothing more serious like ich or a fungus. What signs should I monitor for? He's eating alright and I don't think it has grown since yesterday, but it's really hard to tell (since he's still shy and just wouldn't let me come up close)
I'm currently feeding this in a mix with mysis multiple times a day to fatten him up. It says it has vitamines, but he's spitting out a lot of what he doesn't like, so not sure if he's getting the vitamines?
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Go to the top of the page and click on Forums. Under that is a Forum for Aquarium Nutrition. Great information there. I am currently reading this section. Also go into Fish Disease Treatment and Diagnosis also under Forums. You will find lots of great information there. Also the names of different medications you will want to always have on hand in case of any emergency. And since he is shy just put the food in and step away. There are several different types of vitamins you can get for your fish. Just add it to the food and let it soak for a bit.
I spent lots of time reading up on different diseases. And sometimes that information comes in handy when I least expect it to. Also helped show me the importance of keeping meds on hand.
Good luck, very nice fish. Do not hesitate to contact me if I can help further.
Shelley
I spent lots of time reading up on different diseases. And sometimes that information comes in handy when I least expect it to. Also helped show me the importance of keeping meds on hand.
Good luck, very nice fish. Do not hesitate to contact me if I can help further.
Shelley
Thank you,
yes, I started reading up on different diseases - it makes you paranoid, though Will read some more in the Nutrition forum. I'd already asked for advice on how to feed the trigger and gotten plenty of very valuable advice. I just wanted to make sure he's getting enough vitamins in light of this disease. I ordered Vita chem and Selcon and hope they'll arrive soon. Unfortunately no local resources, they're generally very limited. I will continue with the 2-formular I have (which supposedly has a lot of vitamins) mixing with pure mysis and as soon as the vitamins arrive will let the mysis soak in them. Should I soak them in garlic - will that help?
I think I still have something against fin root from treading a betta a good while ago (he didn't make it ) but will get an arsenal of some more.
I put some stress coat in yesterday, I hope that was ok.
If it was a fungus, how fast would it grow? What other symptoms to monitor for and in what time-frame? I don't think it has grown (it does look raised, though, but hard to say if fluffy or like cauliflower), but again, really hard to take a good look. I'm already trying the feeding-step back approach, but it only helps so much. He has fast moving fins, too
yes, I started reading up on different diseases - it makes you paranoid, though
Will read some more in the Nutrition forum. I'd already asked for advice on how to feed the trigger and gotten plenty of very valuable advice. I just wanted to make sure he's getting enough vitamins in light of this disease. I ordered Vita chem and Selcon and hope they'll arrive soon. Unfortunately no local resources, they're generally very limited. I will continue with the 2-formular I have (which supposedly has a lot of vitamins) mixing with pure mysis and as soon as the vitamins arrive will let the mysis soak in them. Should I soak them in garlic - will that help?I think I still have something against fin root from treading a betta a good while ago (he didn't make it ) but will get an arsenal of some more.
I put some stress coat in yesterday, I hope that was ok.
If it was a fungus, how fast would it grow? What other symptoms to monitor for and in what time-frame? I don't think it has grown (it does look raised, though, but hard to say if fluffy or like cauliflower), but again, really hard to take a good look. I'm already trying the feeding-step back approach, but it only helps so much. He has fast moving fins, too
HotRocks
Fish Fanatic!
Thank you,
yes, I started reading up on different diseases - it makes you paranoid, though
I think I still have something against fin root from treading a betta a good while ago (he didn't make it ) but will get an arsenal of some more.
I put some stress coat in yesterday, I hope that was ok.
If it was a fungus, how fast would it grow? What other symptoms to monitor for and in what time-frame? I don't think it has grown (it does look raised, though, but hard to say if fluffy or like cauliflower), but again, really hard to take a good look. I'm already trying the feeding-step back approach, but it only helps so much. He has fast moving fins, too
Also just a tip on the Vita Chem and Selcon. I alternate using them. I make prepared frozen food with a mixture of several different types of food. I alternate back and forth between the two supplements each batch I make.
I also am currently soaking Nori with Zoecon, for my Desjardini Sailfin that will not eat anything but Nori, and has developed HLLE.
@HotRocks thank you kindly for the advice!
After reading some more in the Disease subforum and this thread: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/lymphocystis.257461/ I'm more worried again because it says that both velvet and ich can start out on the fins and often do. It also says that if the spot disappears after 4 days, it's velvet, between 4 and 7 it's ich, and after 7 it's lympho. Also, if it's lympho, it's supposed to grow bigger, but I haven't seen it grow. To rule out velvet and ich, there shouldn't be any new white spots within 24-48 hours, right? Or could it still be either of them?
Sorry for all the questions, I'm one worried new fish-owner
After reading some more in the Disease subforum and this thread: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/lymphocystis.257461/ I'm more worried again because it says that both velvet and ich can start out on the fins and often do. It also says that if the spot disappears after 4 days, it's velvet, between 4 and 7 it's ich, and after 7 it's lympho. Also, if it's lympho, it's supposed to grow bigger, but I haven't seen it grow. To rule out velvet and ich, there shouldn't be any new white spots within 24-48 hours, right? Or could it still be either of them?
Sorry for all the questions, I'm one worried new fish-owner
HotRocks
Fish Fanatic!
These spots look bigger than what ich would normally be. It is definitely too large to be velvet. Velvet would be very fine spots. Almost hard to see at times unless you are right up on the glass. Both ich and velvet spots would multiply as well. Velvet much more rapidly. Just for comfort let's get you some additional opinions.
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4FordFamily
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I concur I doubt this is ich or velvet. Without quarantining yourself though you’re playing with fire, almost a certainty that it carries ich, velvet, flukes, brook, internal parasites, or more than one of these.
Here’s an article about why LFS cannot and do not quarantine, nor should they be trusted to do so — it’s just not economical:
https://www.reef2reef.com/ams/lfs-fish-“treatment”-the-“sudden”-need-for-quarantine.308/
melypr1985
totally addicted
I agree with the lympho diagnosis and with the danger of not using a Quarantine Tank. 
Thank you kindly!
So you also don't think it's a fungus/bacterial infection?
Point taken about QT. Any additional fish will be quarantined, first.
You're scaring me
But if pretty much every fish carries at least one of these, what good does a QT do except hopefully not introducing it in your display tank? Also, how to prevent an outbreak? (that particular fish though had been at the LFS for over 3 weeks in a small tank (flow-through though as far as I'm aware), so if he had anything, wouldn't it have been likely to have broken out there? I attribute this lympho outbreak to the stress from shipping and him being very skinny from probably not getting enough food)
Please bear with me, I'm really still a novice and this is the first time in literal decades that I've bought fish. The last fish I had I'd gotten from a friend. I'm absolutely open to learning. I'm also a little traumatized because a friend lost all her fish in less than a week to some unknown but obviously aggressive disease (including so-called "hardy" ones: also a trigger).
So you also don't think it's a fungus/bacterial infection?
Point taken about QT. Any additional fish will be quarantined, first.
You're scaring me
But if pretty much every fish carries at least one of these, what good does a QT do except hopefully not introducing it in your display tank? Also, how to prevent an outbreak? (that particular fish though had been at the LFS for over 3 weeks in a small tank (flow-through though as far as I'm aware), so if he had anything, wouldn't it have been likely to have broken out there? I attribute this lympho outbreak to the stress from shipping and him being very skinny from probably not getting enough food)
Please bear with me, I'm really still a novice and this is the first time in literal decades that I've bought fish. The last fish I had I'd gotten from a friend. I'm absolutely open to learning. I'm also a little traumatized because a friend lost all her fish in less than a week to some unknown but obviously aggressive disease (including so-called "hardy" ones: also a trigger).
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A QT is to keep parasites from entering your DT of course. But just as important is it allows you to be able to treat a fish before adding it to your DT as needed. And to give a stressed out fish time to calm down, fatten up and be in top condition before putting it into a tank with fat healthy fish who might be a bit aggressive at first. Puts them on more equally footing!
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