White stringy clownfish poop

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Hello. I just noticed one of my clownfish with white stringy poop. I have two clownfish and a Royal gramma in my 32g Biocube. I have had the 2 clownfish since August 2022. They are captive bred. I did Qt for 28 days non-medicated and had them in my DT for 2.5 months. They are active and eat well. Tonight is the first time I noticed it.

I have read a 2015 R2R discussion that this may be internal parasites (I’ll post a video to demonstrate).

The discussion did discuss treating with prazi vs metronidazole vs API general cure.

Is this in fact internal parasites?
If so how should I treat it? Is there a safe protocol? I do have a 10g tank. Currently empty and dry. I could set up in a day or so if that’s advised.

Should I treat all the fish in the aquarium?

Anything else I should look out for?

As I mentioned I will post a video. Hopefully it will upload. Taking a good enough picture was difficult. Hope the video helps.

Thank you in advance for any advice.
 

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Hello. I just noticed one of my clownfish with white stringy poop. I have two clownfish and a Royal gramma in my 32g Biocube. I have had the 2 clownfish since August 2022. They are captive bred. I did Qt for 28 days non-medicated and had them in my DT for 2.5 months. They are active and eat well. Tonight is the first time I noticed it.

I have read a 2015 R2R discussion that this may be internal parasites (I’ll post a video to demonstrate).

The discussion did discuss treating with prazi vs metronidazole vs API general cure.

Is this in fact internal parasites?
If so how should I treat it? Is there a safe protocol? I do have a 10g tank. Currently empty and dry. I could set up in a day or so if that’s advised.

Should I treat all the fish in the aquarium?

Anything else I should look out for?

As I mentioned I will post a video. Hopefully it will upload. Taking a good enough picture was difficult. Hope the video helps.

Thank you in advance for any advice.
While it may be, there are other causes like stress and even diet- if you’re feeding both mysis shrimp and brine shrimp, often it will mimic an internal issue
 
Just use Prazipro in the DT. It's generally considered reef safe if used correctly (as safe as any medication can be with inverts and coral).

 
Hello. I just noticed one of my clownfish with white stringy poop. I have two clownfish and a Royal gramma in my 32g Biocube. I have had the 2 clownfish since August 2022. They are captive bred. I did Qt for 28 days non-medicated and had them in my DT for 2.5 months. They are active and eat well. Tonight is the first time I noticed it.

I have read a 2015 R2R discussion that this may be internal parasites (I’ll post a video to demonstrate).

The discussion did discuss treating with prazi vs metronidazole vs API general cure.

Is this in fact internal parasites?
If so how should I treat it? Is there a safe protocol? I do have a 10g tank. Currently empty and dry. I could set up in a day or so if that’s advised.

Should I treat all the fish in the aquarium?

Anything else I should look out for?

As I mentioned I will post a video. Hopefully it will upload. Taking a good enough picture was difficult. Hope the video helps.

Thank you in advance for any advice.

Does the fish have any other symptoms? Mucus feces alone isn't enough to diagnose any disease, as there are multiple causes. Here is a list that I have compiled:

Excess mucus in fish feces: this will present as white or light colored, stringy fecal material that often
hangs from the fish’s anus for a longer than normal period. There are a number of different causes for
this, some benign, others very serious. Without access to a microscope, there is little that can be done to
diagnose this issue effectively.

Idiopathic mucus feces: this fancy term is just to describe white mucoid bulky feces of no
serious consequence, but of an unknown cause. Some suspicion is that this can be caused by changes in
diet or diets high in fats.

Starvation: Fish that have no food moving through their bowels may excrete white mucoid feces
with little bulk to them. The primary diagnostic for this issue is evident in that the fish won’t been seen to
be eating. Resolving the anorexia is of course the prime focus to resolve this issue.
Bacterial infection: internal bacterial infections can cause stringy feces as well. While some of
these may resolve on their own, medicated foods containing a broad spectrum, gram negative oral
antibiotic may be required.

Metazoan infections: multicellular worms are often blamed for mucoid feces, but in reality, they
are almost never the root cause for this, and really, can only be diagnosed through looking for their ova in
fecal samples. Fish can harbor tapeworms and nematodes without producing mucoid feces.
Protozoan infection: Hexamita and related diplomonad flagellate protozoans very frequently
cause white stringy feces, especially in newly acquired clownfish. Metronidazole is the most frequent
treatment for this issue. It can be dosed orally at 25 mg per kg of fish body weight, or 5 g in a kg of food.
However, it is a very bitter medication, and some fish will refuse to feed on food containing it. It can be
dosed in the water at 25 mg/l, but this is more effective in treating marine fishes, as freshwater fish do not
“drink” aquarium water.

Coccidia: These microscopic, spore-forming, single-celled parasites are common diseases in
dogs and cats. In fish, they cause epithelial necrosis of the gut, enteritis and the copious production of
mucus (Noga 2010). These cannot be diagnosed without microscopic examination, and there is no well
researched cure for this in fishes, although Toltrazuril has been tested.

Constipation: This malady is often given as a cause for stringy feces, but it is not as common as
one would think. When it is seen, the feces are usually dark, not light in color. Often touted as a “cure
for constipation”, many aquarists add Epsom salts (magnesium sulfate) to the aquarium’s water – do not
do this in marine aquariums, its use is primarily as a tonic/dip for freshwater fish. Seawater formulas
already contain between 7 and 19 grams of magnesium sulfate per gallon (depending on the recipe). NSW
magnesium level is around 1200 ppm and sulfur is around 840 ppm. Some benefit might be seen using it
as a dip in additional concentrations, but adding a small amount to a marine aquarium itself has no
benefit. Epsom salts do have some possible benefit when mixed into the food as a 3% by weight adjunct.
Another commonly heard remedy for constipation is; “feed fresh peas”. This is an effective cure for
fancy goldfish and Malawi cichlids that develop constipation and bloating. Again, overextrapolation has
marine aquarists trying to feed peas to carnivorous fish, etc. The best method to enhance gut motility in
fish is to feed frozen adult brine shrimp – not as a permanent diet, just long enough to get the constipation
resolved.

Jay
 
Thank you for that information.

I haven’t noticed any unusual behavior and last night is the first time I have noticed the white stringy poop. The fish appears to eat well.

I have fed the fish mainly LRS reef frenzy nano but over the past 2 weeks I have been trying to intermittently feed New Life Spectrum Thera +A. I have been alternating the foods and sometime giving a little of both mainly because my two clowns are aggressive (not sure if that is the correct description) feeders and my Royal gramma somewhat shy so I worried that the Royal gramma doesn’t really get a chance to get to the pellets.

Would that be a cause of the idiopathic mucus feces?
Without knowing for sure the cause should I be medicating or observing (concerned if I miss some cues).
 
Also not sure if the video uploaded correctly. Please let me know if you are unable to view. I was able to capture the white stringy poop on video better than still photograph.
 
Thank you for that information.

I haven’t noticed any unusual behavior and last night is the first time I have noticed the white stringy poop. The fish appears to eat well.

I have fed the fish mainly LRS reef frenzy nano but over the past 2 weeks I have been trying to intermittently feed New Life Spectrum Thera +A. I have been alternating the foods and sometime giving a little of both mainly because my two clowns are aggressive (not sure if that is the correct description) feeders and my Royal gramma somewhat shy so I worried that the Royal gramma doesn’t really get a chance to get to the pellets.

Would that be a cause of the idiopathic mucus feces?
Without knowing for sure the cause should I be medicating or observing (concerned if I miss some cues).
At this point, I think you should just wait to see if any other symptoms develop - until then, you wouldn’t know what to treat for in any event.
I’ve found that New Life Spectrum is a good diet and does not induce mucus feces. You can also try frozen brine shrimp as sort of a laxative to get the gut moving, then switch to NLS
Jay
 
At this point, I think you should just wait to see if any other symptoms develop - until then, you wouldn’t know what to treat for in any event.
I’ve found that New Life Spectrum is a good diet and does not induce mucus feces. You can also try frozen brine shrimp as sort of a laxative to get the gut moving, then switch to NLS
Jay
Is that under the assumption that it might be constipation? You mentioned that it would be dark not necessarily white.
I guess I can try and observe? Any specific direction in feeding frozen brine shrimp? Or just feed at the usual schedule? I’m fairly new to the hobby so haven’t tried many types of food other than the LRS frozen and the pellets I mentioned above.
 
Hello. I just noticed one of my clownfish with white stringy poop. I have two clownfish and a Royal gramma in my 32g Biocube. I have had the 2 clownfish since August 2022. They are captive bred. I did Qt for 28 days non-medicated and had them in my DT for 2.5 months. They are active and eat well. Tonight is the first time I noticed it.

I have read a 2015 R2R discussion that this may be internal parasites (I’ll post a video to demonstrate).

The discussion did discuss treating with prazi vs metronidazole vs API general cure.

Is this in fact internal parasites?
If so how should I treat it? Is there a safe protocol? I do have a 10g tank. Currently empty and dry. I could set up in a day or so if that’s advised.

Should I treat all the fish in the aquarium?

Anything else I should look out for?

As I mentioned I will post a video. Hopefully it will upload. Taking a good enough picture was difficult. Hope the video helps.

Thank you in advance for any advice.
Since. you did not use medication in your QT - it could be internal parasites - as others have said - if it persists or worsens (other symptoms) - treatment would be in order - probably with prazipro. Also - it's somewhat curious that your other fish (if it was feeding) - are not showing the other symptoms. Hope this helps.
 
Since. you did not use medication in your QT - it could be internal parasites - as others have said - if it persists or worsens (other symptoms) - treatment would be in order - probably with prazipro. Also - it's somewhat curious that your other fish (if it was feeding) - are not showing the other symptoms. Hope this helps.
Thank you for your input.
I guess I’ll watch but what other symptoms would I expect with internal parasites?

Also are you saying that if it were constipation my other fish would also have this or if it were internal parasites the other fish should also have white stringy poop?
 
Is that under the assumption that it might be constipation? You mentioned that it would be dark not necessarily white.
I guess I can try and observe? Any specific direction in feeding frozen brine shrimp? Or just feed at the usual schedule? I’m fairly new to the hobby so haven’t tried many types of food other than the LRS frozen and the pellets I mentioned above.
Sorry, I can't tell you which of those causes of mucus feces it could be.

You could try the frozen brine shrimp for a few days (maybe just ask your store for a bit of it, you don't want to feed it as a permanent food item) - just to see if the symptoms go away. then you know it is just diet related and not serious. If the symptoms don't go away, then you would need to treat the fish. That would require a hospical tank. I would opt to try metronidazole first.

Jay
 
Sorry, I can't tell you which of those causes of mucus feces it could be.

You could try the frozen brine shrimp for a few days (maybe just ask your store for a bit of it, you don't want to feed it as a permanent food item) - just to see if the symptoms go away. then you know it is just diet related and not serious. If the symptoms don't go away, then you would need to treat the fish. That would require a hospical tank. I would opt to try metronidazole first.

Jay
Ok just to be clear- so feed with brine shrimp for a few days and see if the symptoms (which in this case is white stringy poop) continue?

Are there any other signs I should be concerned about?
 
Ok just to be clear- so feed with brine shrimp for a few days and see if the symptoms (which in this case is white stringy poop) continue?

Are there any other signs I should be concerned about?
Yes - just feed it as the sole diet for a few days to see if it still has mucus feces.
Concerning signs are rapid breathing and lack of a feeding response.
Jay
 
Yes - just feed it as the sole diet for a few days to see if it still has mucus feces.
Concerning signs are rapid breathing and lack of a feeding response.
Jay
Thank you very much.
I started feeding tonight. I attached a video.
Will keep everyone updated.
I do appreciate everyone’s input.
I hope the video transmits.
 

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Thank you very much.
I started feeding tonight. I attached a video.
Will keep everyone updated.
I do appreciate everyone’s input.
I hope the video transmits.
The clowns in the video look really good - I don’t see any sign of secondary symptoms.
Jay
 
I too see no issues and would add /change up diet to see if same color/effect with feces. Brine shrimp will act as a laxative and other foods can be marine cuisine, small plankton , formula one and tdo pellets
 
I too see no issues and would add /change up diet to see if same color/effect with feces. Brine shrimp will act as a laxative and other foods can be marine cuisine, small plankton , formula one and tdo pellets
Great. Thanks to you all for your input. I feel better -for the time being.

I will update. I really do appreciate the input and the education.
So much to learn.
 
Great. Thanks to you all for your input. I feel better -for the time being.

I will update. I really do appreciate the input and the education.
So much to learn.
Hi all.
Just an update. I only saw that white stringy poop from my clownfish on Monday night. I took your advice to observe and feed brine shrimp. I did that from Tuesday to tonight.
All 3 fish (2 clowns and 1 royal gramma) have been eating well and appear active. I will provide a video and a few picks.

Do I assume maybe stress or constipation?

Should I still be concerned and continue with brine shrimp and observe?

Can I stop the brine and return to the New Life Spectrum pellet and/LRS Reef Frenzy Nano?

I appreciate any thoughts?
 

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Hi all.
Just an update. I only saw that white stringy poop from my clownfish on Monday night. I took your advice to observe and feed brine shrimp. I did that from Tuesday to tonight.
All 3 fish (2 clowns and 1 royal gramma) have been eating well and appear active. I will provide a video and a few picks.

Do I assume maybe stress or constipation?

Should I still be concerned and continue with brine shrimp and observe?

Can I stop the brine and return to the New Life Spectrum pellet and/LRS Reef Frenzy Nano?

I appreciate any thoughts?
I’d consider stopping the brine and starting the other foods- that won’t hurt, and brine shrimp is nutritionally poor so you don’t want them to get addicted to it.
Jay
 

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