Whole house water filtration

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Hi all, it's been a while! So with the baby and move I've been out of the hobby for a year now, pretty crazy as I had a 12-15 yr streak going. Anyhow, the new town has horrid water so we are going to get a whole house filter, then I'll attach an rodi after that. What brands do you all like? We have high iron, hi manganese, water has a tan/orange tint and does not smell great. Thanks for the help!

Luke
 
I had the same question, so I did what anyone would do.
Put my friend Dave on it.
Dave is like way OCD. Very inteligent.
Put over 75 hours of dedicated research into finding the best of the best.

So if you have a Kinetico dealer near you, dont hesitate.
He had documentation of over 100 pages of research on almost every water softener out there, proved to me on paper Kinetico
is the best.

But YMMV

It was almost 3K including a seperate Iron filter, as we have high Iron here as well.
All that said we are on a well so no city/county water additives.
Also my tanks are in my shop seperate of the water softener and iron filter. So my BRS 7 stage does it all alone. 0 TDS.

But what we drink and use is awesome water.
 
We have well water. We had the culligan folks come out and install their filter. Works great. It’s set up at our well.
 
my house has very high sediment in the water.

I run a 5 micron filter for the whole house, right after the pressure tank. The filter itself says it is rated for 3 months, but I have to change it every month.

I'm thinking of upgrading and doing graduated filters
1- 20 micron
2 - 10 micron
3 - 5 micron
4 - carbon

Are you on a well or public water?

You can probably message @Buckeye Hydro and they can point you in the right direction. Might want to get the water tested first so you're not throwing money away on stuff you don't need.
 
We are on city but the water is very poor quality. I plan on setting up the house filter before the tank and rodi.
 
Considered the same thing, here in KS tap water comes out with 30ppm nitrates, chloramines I can smell. Those are just the obvious ones I know about. Had a local Kinecto dealer come to the house, crazy expensive.

Decided a whole house RO may be more beneficial for all parties (adults, kids, fish, etc). Required a holding tank, pre filter, large RO unit, post filter buffering and pump to get water around the house. Would require some research but may be worth pricing out.
 
Yes Kinetico may be a bit pricey to start with but in the long run its not.
The rest of the water softener companies out their have monthly fees and charge rent for equipment and so on.
So maybe today, the out of pocket cost on the others is low to start, but they get you for the rest of the products life, every month, of every year, for decades, then come the upgrades in the future, and then, well you did not use the right what ever, or did not check this or that, and now this and that need to be replaced, all on your dime of course. Culligan and the like don't make big money on the equipment, but they thrive on the monthly services and fees.

I have had my Kinetico system for two and a half years, still working like a champ. My friend Dave's has been going strong for over five years, I did have one problem a month ago, where one of the nozzles clogged up and the system stopped using salt. Service guy came out the next day warranted the parts charged me $40.00 for labor.
Basically, unintentionally, showed me what to do, so I wont need that service again. I can take it apart and clean it in another two plus years. So unless I forget to fill the salt bin, its a household item I don't have to think about.
I normally don't ever advocate for anything, ever, most of the time I always point out the problems and faults with stuff, and never post anything positive.
But I will back my Kinetico water softener all day everyday Kinetico six star woop woop.

No I don't own stock and the dealer is not a friend, actually I met him twice, when he came out to evaluate and quote the system, then to install it. I am a electrical contractor, and nothing more than a satisfied customer.
 
Considered the same thing, here in KS tap water comes out with 30ppm nitrates, chloramines I can smell. Those are just the obvious ones I know about. Had a local Kinecto dealer come to the house, crazy expensive.

Decided a whole house RO may be more beneficial for all parties (adults, kids, fish, etc). Required a holding tank, pre filter, large RO unit, post filter buffering and pump to get water around the house. Would require some research but may be worth pricing out.

The only issue with whole house RO is you generally have a major decline in pressure, which is why they usually suggest whole house filtration and ro unit to the kitchen sink. My plan at the moment is one of the three filter units and then have a 300gpd ro unit hooked up after the softener. A whole lot of filtration!

Yes Kinetico may be a bit pricey to start with but in the long run its not.
The rest of the water softener companies out their have monthly fees and charge rent for equipment and so on.
So maybe today, the out of pocket cost on the others is low to start, but they get you for the rest of the products life, every month, of every year, for decades, then come the upgrades in the future, and then, well you did not use the right what ever, or did not check this or that, and now this and that need to be replaced, all on your dime of course. Culligan and the like don't make big money on the equipment, but they thrive on the monthly services and fees.

I have had my Kinetico system for two and a half years, still working like a champ. My friend Dave's has been going strong for over five years, I did have one problem a month ago, where one of the nozzles clogged up and the system stopped using salt. Service guy came out the next day warranted the parts charged me $40.00 for labor.
Basically, unintentionally, showed me what to do, so I wont need that service again. I can take it apart and clean it in another two plus years. So unless I forget to fill the salt bin, its a household item I don't have to think about.
I normally don't ever advocate for anything, ever, most of the time I always point out the problems and faults with stuff, and never post anything positive.
But I will back my Kinetico water softener all day everyday Kinetico six star woop woop.

No I don't own stock and the dealer is not a friend, actually I met him twice, when he came out to evaluate and quote the system, then to install it. I am a electrical contractor, and nothing more than a satisfied customer.

I think kinetico is great, but for me, I already have a top notch softener so no worries about that. I'm looking to add a whole house filtration filter before the softener.
 
In my experience, Kinetico prices are ridiculous.

There seems to be confusion in this thread. The OP complained about high iron, high manganese, and foul odor (presumably hydrogen sulfide). But thene there are posts about "whole house filters" composed of sediment and carbon filters. Hmm. Those won't fix the problem.

As justification for Kinetico crazy high fees, someone said "The rest of the water softener companies out there have monthly fees and charge rent for equipment and so on." Hmm. Why in the world would anyone RENT a water softener? We've sold softeners for years and years, and never have we rented one to a customer. The only winner in a rental situation is the vendor.

If your iron concentration is low enough, a softener can deal with it.
If conditions are right, a softener can also deal with the Mn.

You would not want to deliver this water directly to a whole house RO system. You would trash the RO membrane in short order.

The key is to get your water tested. Once we know what we're dealing with, in nearly all cases, it can be successfully treated. Only once in 20+ years have I declined to sell a customer water treatment equipment because I knew in the long run they wouldn't be happy with it. In that case, we provided a much more desirable work-around.

http://www.buckeyehydro.com/drinking-water-test/

Russ
 
I am satisfied with iSpring WGB21B. After using this water filter, the smell of chlorine has finally come out of my water, a noticeable change can be seen when there are no more stains on the sink.
That is a sediment filter and a 10" x 4.5" carbon block. That carbon block is too small to dechlorinate flows that are common in many households, and it will need rather frequent replacement. Whole house chlorine treatment is more typically done with an auto-backwashing carbon tank. https://www.buckeyehydro.com/backwashing-carbon-tanks/
 

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