Why All-For-Reef don't have potassium

[ReefBeta]

Why All-For-Reef and K+ Elements don't have potassium? Is it not important enough to dose?

I just tested mine and it's 368 ppm. Have been using the DIY All-For-Reef mix.

 

[chefbuddy24]

@Lou Ekus

Why All-For-Reef and K+ Elements don't have potassium? Is it not important enough to dose?

I just tested mine and it's 368 ppm. Have been using the DIY All-For-Reef mix.

 

[Lou Ekus]

Why All-For-Reef and K+ Elements don't have potassium? Is it not important enough to dose?

I just tested mine and it's 368 ppm. Have been using the DIY All-For-Reef mix.

Potassium is not really considered a "trace element" as it exists is much larger concentrations than typical traces. Also, the potassium uptake in the reef tank is not necessarily proportional to the trace element uptake. So we only dose a small trace amount in our Trace A solution. So, like magnesium, potasium has to be dosed separately, so you have total control over needing more or less. This is not true of the trace elements in the AFR or the Trace A or K. normal sea water potassium is about 380 ppm, so anything around 400ppm is generally good.

 

[ReefBeta]

Potassium is not really considered a "trace element" as it exists is much larger concentrations than typical traces. Also, the potassium uptake in the reef tank is not necessarily proportional to the trace element uptake. So we only dose a small trace amount in our Trace A solution. So, like magnesium, potasium has to be dosed separately, so you have total control over needing more or less. This is not true of the trace elements in the AFR or the Trace A or K. normal sea water potassium is about 380 ppm, so anything around 400ppm is generally good.

Thanks for the info. Helps a lot.

Is there a potassium product that's safe to mix into AFR? I want to manually figure out the dosage I need in the next month or two, then mix it into my AFR doser.

 

[Lou Ekus]

Thanks for the info. Helps a lot.

Is there a potassium product that's safe to mix into AFR? I want to manually figure out the dosage I need in the next month or two, then mix it into my AFR doser.

Yes, it is somewhat difficult to find. But you can add or potassium to the AFR with no problem.

Tropic Marin POTASSIUM

Mit Tropic Marin POTASSIUM kann der Kaliumgehalt angepasst werden und mitunter einen Vitalitätsschub und Farbsättigung für verschiedene Korallen bewirken.

www.tropic-marin.com

 

[chefbuddy24]

@Lou Ekus
Any word on when the elusive all for reef powder will but the shelves?

 

[Lou Ekus]

@Lou Ekus
Any word on when the elusive all for reef powder will but the shelves?

Ha, we are just trying to get enough stock in the country right now. I think you will start to see it become available within a month or so. Definitely sometime during the first quarter of 21!

 

[GillMeister]

Ha, we are just trying to get enough stock in the country right now. I think you will start to see it become available within a month or so. Definitely sometime during the first quarter of 21!

Nearly everyone loves TM products, but the lack of supply is hugely problematic. Do you think this situation will correct itself as we exit the worst of the pandemic?

 

[Lou Ekus]

Nearly everyone loves TM products, but the lack of supply is hugely problematic. Do you think this situation will correct itself as we exit the worst of the pandemic?

We have increased our manufacturing capacities quite a bit in the last few months. It takes Tropic Marin a significant amount of time to do that, due to our extremely stringent QC procedures. That being said, the very beginning of our increased capacity is starting to show up in the US. I would think that supply of Tropic Marin will look like a very different animal by the middle of this year.
BTW, we have been fortunate that, although it has effected some shipping and delivery schedules, our factory has not had to slow down at all due to COVID-19. We have been very careful with alternating shifts etc. If that all continues well, and there are no "new" issues, I am confident the supply will be much better in the very near future.

 

[driftin]

Lou, is potassium one of the elements that would get covered through a normal water change schedule? It had never occurred to me to test or supplement.

[Using AFR with Pro Reef salt]

 

[chefbuddy24]

Thank you, I am waiting on it. Quick question @Lou Ekus , I am on the fence about switching to the tm salt. I currently use Red Sea pro and have a sps dominant tank. Dose 24 ml afr with a Kamoer x1 pro.
My question is what are the main benefits for making a switch to Tm salt? Cost is not a factor for me like for som.
Thank you

Ha, we are just trying to get enough stock in the country right now. I think you will start to see it become available within a month or so. Definitely sometime during the first quarter of 21!

 

[Lou Ekus]

Thank you, I am waiting on it. Quick question @Lou Ekus , I am on the fence about switching to the tm salt. I currently use Red Sea pro and have a sps dominant tank. Dose 24 ml afr with a Kamoer x1 pro.
My question is what are the main benefits for making a switch to Tm salt? Cost is not a factor for me like for som.
Thank you

Hi Chef,

If you are seeing any residual sediment, from mixing your salt now, you will not see that with the Pro Reef. I will say, though, that the switch from the Red Sea Pro needs to be done carefully and with the knowledge that you are going from one extreme of alkalinity to the other. The impact will be more or less noticable depending on where you like to keep the alkalinity in your tank system. If you'd like to discuss this, and the transition, in more detail. give me a call in the office and we can go over the specifics.

 

[Lou Ekus]

Lou, is potassium one of the elements that would get covered through a normal water change schedule? It had never occurred to me to test or supplement.

[Using AFR with Pro Reef salt]

It totally depends on the specific of the individual system. Some yes, and some no.

 

[Anxur]

Il potassio non è realmente considerato un "oligoelemento" in quanto esiste in concentrazioni molto più elevate rispetto alle tipiche tracce. Inoltre, l'assorbimento di potassio nell'acquario di barriera non è necessariamente proporzionale all'assorbimento di oligoelemento. Quindi ne dosiamo solo una piccola quantità di tracce nella nostra soluzione Trace A. Quindi, come il magnesio, il potassio deve essere dosato separatamente, quindi hai il controllo totale sulla necessità di averne di più o di meno. Questo non è vero per gli oligoelementi nell'AFR o nella Trace A o K. Il normale potassio dell'acqua di mare è di circa 380 ppm, quindi qualsiasi cosa intorno a 400 ppm è generalmente buona

Le tracce A e K sono diverse da Tropic Marine. Tutto per Reef?

Ho un piccolo segreto quando preparo il cambio dell'acqua con il sale Tropic Marine Pro Reef...

 

[redfishbluefish]

Le tracce A e K sono diverse da Tropic Marine. Tutto per Reef?

Ho un piccolo segreto quando preparo il cambio dell'acqua con il sale Tropic Marine Pro Reef...

Google Translation:

Tracks A and K are different from Tropic Marine. All for Reef?

I have a little secret when I prepare the water change with Tropic Marine Pro Reef salt...

@Anxur , Tieni presente che la lingua di questo forum è l'inglese. Per favore fai del tuo meglio per tradurre in inglese. Grazie
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[Anxur]

Google Translation:

Tracks A and K are different from Tropic Marine. All for Reef?

I have a little secret when I prepare the water change with Tropic Marine Pro Reef salt...

@Anxur , Tieni presente che la lingua di questo forum è l'inglese. Per favore fai del tuo meglio per tradurre in inglese. Grazie
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Tracks A and K are different from Tropic Marine. All for Reef? I have a little secret when I prepare the water change with Tropic Marine Pro Reef salt...

 

[Lou Ekus]

Trace A and Trace K are different from All-For-Reef.

 

[Anxur]

La traccia A e la traccia K sono diverse da All-For-Reef.

If i want to increase the element values in my 60 gallon water change (with Tropic Marine Pro Reef), your recommendations will be add All for Reef or A&K in they new water?

My goal is improve the single values of elements

 

[Lou Ekus]

If i want to increase the element values in my 60 gallon water change (with Tropic Marine Pro Reef), your recommendations will be add All for Reef or A&K in they new water?

My goal is improve the single values of elements

For increasing single elelements, I would suggest addressing that in the aquarium, not in your water change water. Remember, Trace A has 7 trace elelents in it and Trace K has 10. So it is difficult to target only one trace with hose solutions. If you are targeting a speciic trace, I would recommend looking into the Trident Method additives. I think they are more specific to individul ones.
All of that being said, please be careful to avoid chasing a specific value for a specific trace alone. That is a very difficult task, and often proves unsuccessful in the long run due to ICP measurment limitations....Just keep that in mind.

 

[Anxur]

For increasing single elelements, I would suggest addressing that in the aquarium, not in your water change water. Remember, Trace A has 7 trace elelents in it and Trace K has 10. So it is difficult to target only one trace with hose solutions. If you are targeting a speciic trace, I would recommend looking into the Trident Method additives. I think they are more specific to individul ones.
All of that being said, please be careful to avoid chasing a specific value for a specific trace alone. That is a very difficult task, and often proves unsuccessful in the long run due to ICP measurment limitations....Just keep that in mind.

My goal is improve values of elements, almost all or all.. I don't care...

So, for you Lou, what the best tropic marin product to do this?

-A k
-all for reef
-pro coral mineral
-others

My favorite was all for reef but it's doesn’t have potassium..