Why are all heaters crap?

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I feel like I've owned every heater available on the market and I have not found one that seems to be worth anything. Is there a reason that these are all crappy pieces of junk? I'm able to buy decent pumps and awesome lights, is there a reason that there isn't a decent heater available? I'd gladly pay $200 if it meant that I didn't have to replace it every few months and that I could rely on it for a few year of service.

The latest heater I purchased is a Fluval E. Supposed to be one of the better heaters. I installed it, watched it for a few hours and it seemed to be maintaining temperature. The next day I start getting alarms that my tank is 85 degrees. I reset the heater via my profilux and it does fine for a few days and then the temperature starts crashing again for no reason. I checked the heater and it doesn't show low flow or any other reason for the fact that it just isn't turning on. I ended up re-installing my cobalt neo-therm as a back-up. I took that one out of service since after a few months it started leaking electricity into the tank when the top got wet. It's the second neo-therm I purchased. The first one wouldn't tun off straight out of the box and went back immediately. Before that I've had Eheim Jaegers. Everyone I've purchased in the past few years can't keep a constant temperature. Tank is 89 one day. 86 the next. Those used to be rock solid heaters except for the fact that they are so frigging easy to break.

In all honesty, the heaters that seem to work the best are the aqueon preset heaters that I use for waterchanges. I'm tempted to put two of those in my tank. I was thinking about the BRS heaters, but apparently those are out of stock and since all manufacturing in china has ground to a halt, I don't expect them to get any in for the foreseeable future.

Other than the fact that it feels so good to rant, is there a reason that someone hasn't made a decent heater? Anyone else have this problem? Is there a great heater that I just haven't found?
 
Resistive heaters work fine but the internal thermostats are mostly crap. If you’re willing to spend $200, buy a ranco controller and a finnex titanium. EBJ work fine with an external controller also. Can you not use the GHL as thermostat?
 
BRS just came out with new Titanium heaters with separate controllers that are supposed to beat everything that's available. I'd buy one but they went out of stock pretty quick. I bought a Cobalt neo Therm 150 watt. It held the most precise temp in a head to head and it's a very nice thin profile. I don't have it running yet but I hope to get a few years out of it.
 
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Resistive heaters work fine but the internal thermostats are mostly crap. If you’re willing to spend $200, buy a ranco controller and a finnex titanium. EBJ work fine with an external controller also. Can you not use the GHL as thermostat?

there it is right there

10 years plus and running. I can’t tell you how many power outage, moves and redos my Ranco and Finnex went thru. This year I was actually starting to doubt it was still working. I have the Ranco set to low at 76 degrees. I left my house at 69 since winter started.i have a 180. I have not seen temp go below 76. I have never done anything to the Finnex other than wipe it off maybe 10 times in 10 years. I have the probe right under my socks and the heater right after that. Works like a brick house.
 
I use Ehiem Jagrs on Ranco too. Dual thermostats to prevent overheating. Ehiems seem to last 3-5 years if I keep the tops out of the water... or longer. Ranco appear to last forever at my house.

I don't trust a titanium on just a single thermostat. Dual thermostats for me.
 
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Had this going on 3 years not a single problem hooked up to ink bir
 
Super happy with my Aquatop titanium 500w in my 115g system volume. The sensor may be a bit off, as I have it set to 80 degrees and it maintains it between 78.3-78.7 or so consistently so far from what I can tell. I don't have a monitoring system and I'm not finicky about slight temp swings at this time. Just running simple lps and softies at this time with fish.
 
Haven’t had any problems with the Cobalt Neo Therms 150 and 200. Both tops are under water, running two 150s on current tank. Granted they’re only in during the winter months.
 
For lack of a better phrase... "Sometimes it be like that"



All three of my neotherms failed the same week 2 in the off position 1 in the on position and killed thousands of dollars worth of acros. I blame myself though, I should have swapped them out yearly but *silly me* I believed Cobalt when they said they produced a quality product.

Switched to a Finnex heater(thermostat on them is off by 3 degrees) and an Apex
 
BRS just came out with new Titanium heaters with separate controllers that are supposed to beat everything that's available. I'd buy one but they went out of stock pretty quick. I bought a Cobalt neo Therm 150 watt. It held the most precise temp in a head to head and it's a very nice thin profile. I don't have it running yet but I hope to get a few years out of it.

The controller is garbage. The heater is nice though.
 
For lack of a better phrase... "Sometimes it be like that"



All three of my neotherms failed the same week 2 in the off position 1 in the on position and killed thousands of dollars worth of acros. I blame myself though, I should have swapped them out yearly but *silly me* I believed Cobalt when they said they produced a quality product.

Switched to a Finnex heater(thermostat on them is off by 3 degrees) and an Apex
Neo there’s mentioned above are on Apex as well.
 

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