Why are my corals mad!?!?

[DeniseAndy]

Not unless you tick them off or another coral or fish does. It is a normal defense mechanism.

 

[Birddog61]

5 &1/2 months ago you were advised to purchase a wifi scope for your phone costing 15.00 wallmart .com. up to 30.00 in other locations. To correctly identify your pest for a treatment plan that would actually be effective

 

[rynosaurus]

well Birddog you are right. Truth is the post directly above that had given me the best idea of what it was but I was unable to find the best way to fix it. Since than I have tried multiple things mentioned with some success but they are still there.
I ordered the scope yesterday and we shall seeif the positively identifies the algae. If it does the question still remains, how do you fix it.
Today I have read multiple threads on chryso’s none of which have the same remedy.
I also won’t know for sure if the algae is causing my issue or something else. I hope to finally get this algae gone completely and see what happens.

 

[rynosaurus]

Anyone have any other ideas on getting my anemones to let go.
I tried the ice , two ice cubes melted with no results. Than the tickle method for a good 10-15 min straight with no success.

 

[Birddog61]

Often it will take a credit card or similar plastic card to work them loose after ice. It is easiest if you remove the rock from the tank. Some times you will need to use thumb nail , dull butter knife tip providing there is no cutting edge.
NOTE : do not use a butter knife with serrated tip

Many times it requires hammer and chisel/screw driver. to chip off a piece of rock under the nem.

 

[rynosaurus]

Often it will take a credit card or similar plastic card to work them loose after ice. It is easiest if you remove the rock from the tank. Some times you will need to use thumb nail , dull butter knife tip providing there is no cutting edge.
NOTE : do not use a butter knife with serrated tip

Many times it requires hammer and chisel/screw driver. to chip off a piece of rock under the nem.

I guess I can try and chisel the rock away. The reason for moving the nems is to get them off the rock with the palys. There are two of them on there and both have there foot deep in that dang rock.

 

[DeniseAndy]

Make sure to wear PPE and you should be okay. Just throw any towels away that you use and rinse, wash everything very well.

 

[Birddog61]

I guess I can try and chisel the rock away. The reason for moving the nems is to get them off the rock with the palys. There are two of them on there and both have there foot deep in that dang rock.

The nems will move by themselves providing thay have room to go. And a desire to go As to your palys. Activated charcoal . Note charcoal also removes small amounts of no3 along with toxins from palys , zoes , coralamorphs. So there is a catch 22 involved in your case. , and that is providing you prefer to keep the palys

 

[Birddog61]

Make sure to wear PPE and you should be okay. Just throw any towels away that you use and rinse, wash everything very well.

Skip the towels. ,,, newspaper

 

[rynosaurus]

I’m going to get rid of the palys, not cause I want to but because I would rather take no risks.
hope to get the nems off when I do this. Gloves and newspaper it is!
now that you mention the carbon removing the toxins, that reminds me that I haven’t used carbon for maybe a month. I wonder if this is contributing? Well trial and error I guess I will put ghat back in tank for a bit also.

 

[DeniseAndy]

Glasses, wear glasses too. The safety kind that go all the way around your eyes. That is from experience. Maybe a mask too to avoid any in your mouth. Again, FE.

 

[rynosaurus]

So I finally got to play with my new microscope and I’m a lil disappointed. This is the best pic I could get of the algae.

 

[rynosaurus]

Here is a better sample I got. This stuff just falls apart out of the water hard to even get a tiny piece of it to look at.

 

[rynosaurus]

I got rid of the palys today. And I hope the nems survive that much stress.

 

[rynosaurus]

@Birddog61 well what do you think about those pics. Pretty disappointed at the magnification.

 

[Birddog61]

Yes the pics are lacking , ideally magnification would go to the cellular level allowing observations to identify cellular movement seperating plant from anmial. In your case determining weather poisoning or starving is required to eradicate
Without any other starting point i must ask where is all your no3, it is uncommon to use all no3 vs po4. in addition when organics are broken down considerable more no3 is produced. I can only surmise there is an external source at work that will need to be addressed. and that is providing your tests are reasonably accurate. The first thing I would look for given the information provided is an external source of po4. Very commonly found in makeup water. And to a lesser extant foods. Like frozen foods. Outdated liquid foods, flake foods. and again i would look at make up water real hard. And have an external source verify your tests of both tank and makeup water

 

[rynosaurus]

Ok I can definitely test my RO water to see if that’s high in phosphates.
I also want to note ( before we get too sidetracked) that my coral at one we’re doing just fine. The algae has been in my tank even before adding any corals. something has changed within the last two months to cause my softies to close.
Again I’m not giving up on the algae but at the same time I don’t believe it is the cause.
I can say that the past few days my green star polys are halfway open and my toadstool is opening but not fully, this is a start but not quite there.

 

[Birddog61]

Appearing that paly toxins were the issue. However it is most likely that is only 1 peice of the puzzle

 

[EMeyer]

Saw the title and thought I bet the alk is too high. Clicked in, and I see 11 dkh.

Lower your alk slowly to the level of natural seawater and everything will be happier.

I'm starting to think that after misread salinity, high alk may be the most common cause of reefing problems.

 

[rynosaurus]

Saw the title and thought I bet the alk is too high. Clicked in, and I see 11 dkh.

Lower your alk slowly to the level of natural seawater and everything will be happier.

I'm starting to think that after misread salinity, high alk may be the most common cause of reefing problems.

From what I have read 11dkh is within range? Is there something I don’t know. As I stated earlier I raised the alk higher as a result of watching a BRS experiment that showed higher growth rates and better color from corals. What would be a good goal to hit, if they are wrong.
@Birddog61 the improvements did happen even before I had pulled those palys. This week I plan to do my water change and will be rechecking water quality, and comparing that with how my coral are feeling.