Why do all my wrasses die?

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Ten years in and I cannot keep a wrasse alive for more than a few days. In the past 4 months alone I've killed:
- Kato Wrasse
- 2 Carpenters
- Pintail Wrasse
This issue stems from when I started 10 years ago. Wrasses are my favorite fish and I've never been able to keep them. The best success Ive had was a sixline that my friend gave to me because "I honestly doubt you could kill him if you tried"... He lasted six months and disappeared. My boss seems to think it's my neon Dottyback but seriously he is not aggressive at all and I got him because I've been trying to keep wrasses for the better part of the decade and it was a gift to fill the wrasse shaped void in my soul which doesn't explain the other ~20 wrasses. This last attempt was a $500 flush fest and I really can't handle it anymore. The latest example was this beautiful Pintail. Fresh from the ocean, he was collected, shipped, unpacked by my lady herself, placed in the wrasse system for one day, was eating and very active, brought home the next day by me. I temp acclimated for about 30 minutes after a 10 minute car ride after work and fast drip acclimated for about 20 minutes. Released him in to the tank and immediately he fit right in. 0 signs off aggression from any fish and ate immediately with everyone else instead of hiding right away. He was out for hours swimming, no fear, nobody was picking on him and he was just playing in the current. I was so happy as that was the most outgoing a wrasse I had gotten ever was. I woke up the next morning and their he was in the low flow settling pile, dead and picked almost clean. Details in my build thread and any questions you have just ask. I only have one suspect and its my girls harlequin serpent star. Other than that I honestly have no clue. Things I've tried include:
- Temp Match, Pop and Drop
- Long Acclimation
- Short Acclimation
- QT
- Acclimation box * all the methods above
- Sitting in front of my tank for hours on a yoga ball until after lights out watching the wrasse go to bed and getting barely any sleep just to hurry and wake up only to find a dead wrasse (The Pintail, my absolute favorite wrasse)
Please help me before I kill anymore wrasses and just pack my tank with Tannerite and pop it with a .308.
 
Also, I have had screen tops for years and overflow covers. Only a couple have vanished. Most I find end up in the low flow half eaten.
 
Also also, I work for a wholesaler and maintain, medicate and transport/deliver/ship ~1000 wrasses a month. I just can keep them in my own system.
 
It's about the size of the average man's hand
What color is it? I have a red serpent that is about 16in tip to tip and it pays fish no mind. But I know the green ones are known for attacking fish, and a sleeping wrasse makes an easy target.
 
That's what I've read but it's not green. What makes me think the star is because the sixline was in the tank when the harlequin was in the sump while I had harlequin shrimp so my lady didn't stab me for killing her starfish with my shrimp.
 
Maybe move the star to the sump for a bit and try again. Not with an expensive pintail. But maybe a carpenter's or something
That's what I was thinking but wanted to see if anyone else had the same issue and if we had anything in common. Plus I need to be able to point to my phone and convince the old lady her starfish needs it's own tank or it's goin in the sump. It used to be cool talking reef and she just smiled and nodded but now she wants to know why lol.
 
This sucks. If it was me I would setup a separate tank with same water from your display for few weeks. If it survives than you know it's not the water and must be something from your display tank. Maybe the star fish is hunting them down when they are asleep.
 
This sucks. If it was me I would setup a separate tank with same water from your display for few weeks. If it survives than you know it's not the water and must be something from your display tank. Maybe the star fish is hunting them down when they are asleep.
Yeah the Pintail was the final straw and put me at a loss. The live fine in the acclimation box and as soon as the go in the tank tank it's a wrap
 
Also also, I work for a wholesaler and maintain, medicate and transport/deliver/ship ~1000 wrasses a month. I just can keep them in my own system.
So you plop and dropped fish into your DT, however you help wholesaler QT and medicate fish? So this fish was not quarantined?
 
So you plop and dropped fish into your DT, however you help wholesaler QT and medicate fish? So this fish was not quarantined?
Plop and drop was on the list of things I've tried in the past 10 years. Yes, I took this last one home before it went into medication. He was in excellent shape, eating at work and ate with everyone that night. At work it's Friday fish in, 2 days and then meds start on Monday so somebody is their everyday to monitor everything the first week. The Pintail did not get popped and dropped. He was acclimated over 20ish minutes after a 10 minute car ride. He was not struggling at all up until I watched him go into the rock and stay there for the night.
 
I've had fish for 20 years. I dont qt. I set up a hospital tank and treat if needed. Not everyone has fish problems bc of not qt. And y only wrasses. I'm truly think they're being preyed upon
I honestly think is predation, I'm just not sure if it's the harlequin star or something else entirely.
 
I don't QT either. Luckily I have good LFS. I always make sure they are alert and eating before I buy them, but sometimes it just doesn't work out.
 
I pulled all but 3 Scarlett hermits out of my tank crab wise last year marchish. Haven't seen any worms beside bristle. Had a couple anthias disappear but chalked that up to aggression from the male since I noticed there seemed to be a couple sub males in the group I picked up
 

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