Why do so many people leave the hobby?

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Recently attended a presentation given by Tony Vargas. He touched on this topic briefly during his talk. His number one reason why people get out of the hobby was a little surprising to me, since I have never had that problem. His opinion (not necessarily mine) why most people get out of the hobby ... spouses. :-)
 
I agree and have seen many hobbyists leave due to spouses not having much regard to their partners hobby. It can make things even worse if the hobbyist begins to devote more and more time to their tank, especially when they are dealing with a problem with their tank.
Having the approval of a significant other can be very important.
It's just like getting a dog or anything else, if one person isn't on board it probably isn't going to go well from the start.
 
I got out of the hobby 4 years ago because of a tank crash. I'd been taking care of my terminally ill father and my tank was neglected as I just didn't have the energy to keep up with it, care for him and comfort my mother. I lost contact with a lot of good friends in the hobby that I had made in my time before the crash. Then my youngest son had a battle with cancer and my focus was on him. It has taken me 4 years to have the heart to restart and I'm so glad that I did. My son wants my current tank if I ever upgrade, so that's an insight to the fact that he is now cancer free and doing well. There's definitely a huge variety of reasons as to why people get out of the hobby!
 
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New people can not get straight answers!

A few example questions that need facts for an answer;

I just spent $7500 on a 100g. system to keep SPS. Where should I keep my alk, nitrate, cal.?

I recently found bubble algae, will emerald crabs remove them?

Do peppermint shrimp eat aiptasia?

Do I have to have two tanks, I only have room/money for one?

My fish has Ich, can I deal with it or do I have to get out of the hobby for 76 days?

If you ask any of these questions you will not get an answer, you will get a lot of opinions. If you have been in the hobby for a while you can sift the the information and find what will be best for your situation but if you are new you just start going down the list of answers until something works or you run out of money/patients.

I feel this hobby should have better answers at this stage,...people have been doing this for a while!
 
Recently attended a presentation given by Tony Vargas. He touched on this topic briefly during his talk. His number one reason why people get out of the hobby was a little surprising to me, since I have never had that problem. His opinion (not necessarily mine) why most people get out of the hobby ... spouses. :)

If you read his book he touches on that constantly. The "spouse factor". Include them in placement, think of them when having to maintain the tank...say lay towels when doing a water change. Include them in fish/coral purchase.
 
The younger crowd still have to find where they want to settle so set up small then later go bigger the ones that have been in a long time might be going bigger or smaller I know people around be that have been in it 15 year but go smaller or just get more smaller tanks after selling there big one
 
This has been an interesting thread to read, since I'm planning on getting into the hobby. What's nice to see is that I have everything I've read here covered =).

When browsing this website and others it seems like what I read the most is either time, money, or demotivating crash. In the end I think those three seem to be more important than the boredom factor. If it didn't cost time, or take money, then being board or not wouldn't matter much. People are willing to put up with the time and money when they are excited about it, but once the excitement wears off the time and money become a bigger factor. I think the solution to stay in the hobby for longer would be to make it take as little time and money as possible.
 
My husband and I joined this hobby together to have something to do together. Now we are in it full force. I can't imagine never having a tank again even if it's a 3 gallon pico tank. Now my brother on the other hand had a 125 aggressive tank and when he got divorced he got rid of it, and that was 10 years ago and I'm trying to pull him back into it because I find it so relaxing but he won't do it. He says he doesn't have the time for it anymore. Which to me is crazy because I have 1 more kid then he does and work more then he does. So I think it just takes special people who have a love for it to stay in it.
 
Why do so many people get out of the hobby?
This hobby has been around for 44 years and yet you can count the number of tanks that are at least 20 years old on one hand. OK, maybe two, I didn't really count, but work with me. The vast majority of threads are very new tanks and the second largest number of threads besides disease threads is "Getting out of the hobby, everything for sale" threads. Why is that?
I think I know. It takes a special (weird) type of person to keep at this for a large number of years. By that I mean a person with more varied interests than just keeping some beautiful fish alive. When I started, me and Moses would sit and watch our guppies. After we managed to keep the fish alive we got so excited to see them spawn. Then we would sit up all night with an eye dropper so we could feed each one individually and watch it grow. We were horrified when one (or most of them) died. And they were guppies. Then when we were proficient with breeding different strains of guppies to get different colors we tried mollies, then swordtails and any livebearers we could get our hands on. But that got boring and we needed more of a challenge. There were so many fish to choose from. We had kissing gourami’s, angelfish, discus, zebra’s and bettas with their very cool bubble nests. We did this for years until that was so easy that we did not get excited when our fish spawned. Not being exciting is death to a hobby and we almost went on to other endeavors like trying to guess the phone numbers of Supermodels. But wait. Something happened just in the nick of time that kept us in the hobby.
Someone imported salt water fish into the US. I don't remember who that was but whoever he was, it kept my interest because now I no longer needed to watch my freshwater fish spawn as that was boring because everyone was able to do it. If anyone can do it, it isn't as much fun because we couldn't brag about our success and get fish Geek points. The thrill was gone.
But saltwater fish opened up an entirely new field that no one knew anything about. If a store sold salt water fish they had a huge sign in their window proclaiming that they had salt water fish. That usually meant they had a 5 gallon tank with three, ich infested blue devils and a depressed domino with a social disease on his way to having last rites. But those damsels were so fascinating because now, we again had bragging rites and although we were not very good at keeping these guys alive, no one else could either. Eventually our damsels spawned for us and we were again able to get out the eye dropper and stay up late at night feeding them one at a time. The thrill was back. Much of the thrill was that there was virtually no information available about these things, I mean none, and computers were not invented yet so every day that we kept a damsel alive was a thrill, sort of like bungee jumping but different. I really miss those days as now it is simple to keep most fish alive and to kill a damsel you need to lay it in the street and have a 1957 Chevy Malibu run over it, twice.
Now with the internet and advice coming from every little village on earth there is very little thrill at all. If you need to know something all you do is Google it and an entire plethora of information is at your fingertips. Of course almost all of it is wrong based on rumor, conjecture, supposition, guesswork, innuendos, and drug induced rantings by someone who started a tank last Tuesday and now is the resident expert.
I myself have been doing this a while so I know better on a few things but I can see how it can be overwhelming. I read so many things that I am so opposed to that it drives me nuts so I limit my posts on almost all forums now because of the arguments. Of course I am also old and opinionated so I guess I also am easy to argue with. My old school theories are debunked by young college grads with all sorts of book learning and a cell phone with a google app ready to find something to disagree with. That is fine and is the way of the world. But I think the main reason so many people drop out is that most of the thrill is gone. Almost every fish that can be kept, is kept. We can now keep fish for their entire normal lifespan with no problems.
Thank God for corals. Those gems are still a source of wonder as there are so many types with different needs and so many opinions as to their care. How much light? How much current? Do they need to be fed? What is the best temperature and salinity? How much nitrate can they handle and how much do they need, if any? Would a Supermodel be able to successfully keep a coral? No one really knows so the hobby has hope.
I'm a baby in the hobby, only 3 years! However I assume the majority is the money and frustration. What I know is that with every frustration come a triumph and that's what makes me want to stay in this awesome hobby! It's also bonding for my family as we ALL love it!
 
A lot of people look at the money they spent and say "it's just fish" and some before they even begin. Others just "forget" About their tank. And some just give up.
 
Recently attended a presentation given by Tony Vargas. He touched on this topic briefly during his talk. His number one reason why people get out of the hobby was a little surprising to me, since I have never had that problem. His opinion (not necessarily mine) why most people get out of the hobby ... spouses. :)

Strongly disagree. Might have been Tony's problem, but it isn't mine. Isn't the problem for anyone I know, either.

We have seen it all - total loss of fish due to ich breakout. Complete coral loss due to a trigger that caused RTN. Bad salt. Bad equipment.

And we are still here.

I see people getting out all of the time. Sometimes it's personal or family related. However, most of it is because they don't understand the hobby, never did any research, just bought a lot of stuff, threw it together, and thought they would be the next Todd Cherry. They solicit advice but never follow it, and a lot of their failures can be attributed to just plain lack of common sense.

Here's a good example - "My heater just went out and cooked my fish, so I'm getting out." I advised that person to get two smaller heaters so that if one stuck on it wouldn't be enough power to cook the tank, or get an Apex. Didn't do either, and turned his tank into seafood jambalaya.

Most people getting out have no patience. They want it all now. Nothing good ever happens fast in a reef tank.

Too many wannabe reefers think that 10$ bottle of super omega whatever is gonna make them successful. Again, wrong answer.

My $0.02 worth.

Kev
 
I needed something to tinker with...although I have zero plans to start building hobby grade equipment for myself, half the reason I enjoy the hobby is I enjoy the time and work you have to put in to see the results you can get out.

Tell me I can't grow acro frags in a fully stocked tank with led lights and I see it as a challenge and or experimental growth process.

Never tell a medical professional who used to have to calculate and mix IV drugs on the fly during a code that things like calculating the drip rate of dosing and running some labs is "too much work" either.

It's too hard to get a flow rate that both sps and Lps will be happy with? I'll buy $1,500 with of pumps and spend two months trying every setting of every pump in every combinaton just to see if I can....

Now, contrast this type of OCD with a person who sees EVERY bit of work and time they have to put in as a chore and expects to be successful with putting in almost no work and I'll show you someone likely to get out of the hobby....

I doubt that I'll ever find myself up at 3am with a medicine dropper trying to hand feed livestock however...I might throw some dedicated coral food in at midnight a couple times a month if my nitrates are low though. .
 
I'd say the majority of people leave the hobby for the same reason most people leave a hobby, they don't get enough out of it. Could be because they don't put enough into it, or they just don't enjoy it very much.

My reason for sticking with this hobby is that I love water and everything that lives in it. Salt or fresh, I love it. I'm 28 and I've kept aquariums, successfully and not so successfully, for over 15 years now. I can't imagine not having a tank. I have other hobbies and I usually try to incorporate them into my love for aquariums. Heck, I even use my engineering knowledge to create for my tank.
 
I think it's @Paul B 's fault. People read his posts and think, "Awesome! I put this glass box in my house and I'll suddenly be surrounded by supermodels!" Then the supermodels don't show up and they have to mow the algae off their rocks, which really irks the Dory fish who jumps from the tank into the garbage disposal, causing them to drop the mower and break the tank which would be no big deal, but who really knows where the mop is? Next thing you know, the supermodel of the house, aka that special lady with that priceless ring on her finger, rescinds her permission to try to attract the attention of supermodels, which pretty much means the end of it.
 
I've been keeping fish in glass boxes, jars, plastic tubs and holes in the ground since the early 1960s. I can't imagine life without a tank.

Like Paul, I started with live bearers and by 10 years old, I had a booming business selling the offspring to Woolworths and the local pet shops.

I only converted to the salty side about 7 years ago, but I'm already on my 5th tank (had 3 running at once for a while). Sometimes life throws you for a loop and the tank takes a back seat. Early this past summer, I moved into a hospice with my wife. I came home once a week to feed the fish and add water to the ATO. After she passed away and I moved back home, the tank was a sea of green. The task of bringing the tank back to its former 'glory' was, for me, a godsend. It gave me a sense of purpose and something that I had a level of control over. I really don't know how I would have coped if I didn't have a tank. I can't imagine ever getting out of the hobby. It is a part of me.
 
I think part of the equation to why people leave the hobby is why did they get in to it. A lot of people start a hobby only to find that it wasn't for them due to various reasons.
To me I think you have to start from the beginning to figure out why it ends the way it does. I don't think the question is asked very much for beginners as to why they want to start this hobby and knowing everything that comes with it.
Just like anything else, you only get out of it what you put in.
 
I have had one or more tanks going since I was 8, I am in my 40's now. My fish tanks, have survived bad relationships which numerous things were dumped in the tank, mean step kids, their friends, divorce, and even two tornado's, and no power for weeks. guess what, I still have at least two tanks going. I think it has to do with Love, If you find something you love to do, it doesn't matter what it is it doesn't get boring. A lot of people would rather watch TV or play on their phone than clean a fish tank. Some people get tied up in sports with there kids and don't have time, some it is the battle of the spouse. you just have to find what makes you happy. to me it is the biggest stress reliever after a 14-16 hour work day to come home and sit in the easy chair and watch the fish, it relaxes me. it is a calm.
 

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