Why does a skimmer work?

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I am trying to learn why a skimmer is able to pull out dissolved organics only using bubbles. All of the articles and threads just state that the organic molecules, oils, etc. "stick" to the bubbles produced in the skimmer. Does anyone have a more in-depth chemical explanation for why the bubbles and waste molecules are attracted to each other? Thanks
 
Not more in depth, but think of scrubbing bubbles, and dissolved organics like hitchhikers which glady jump on a bubble and take a ride into the cup. The skimmer was one of those accidents that happen to be a game changer, just like plastic.
 
Like foamy frothy water near the beach is oceans skimmers ^_^

All I know is the bubbles get made in the chamber and as air lighter than water ,the air bubbles rise to the top and as they rise any proteins that have started to breakdown and small organic particles get stuck in/around and onto the now frothy air bubbles and if input/ output and air bubbles set correctly then they slowly rise to surface and keep getting pushed up and up and over into collection cup.

This is my understanding on it anyway .

Why you wanting to know,some schoolwork for you or a kid and writing something about it.if so maybe get in touch with a skimmer manufacturer to get a full indepth breakdown on how and why it happens,hope that helps.

Good luck with why you wanting to know or maybe just curious mind ^_^
 
Not exactly sure of the mechanism, but I believe it is basically the non-polar organic molecules (hydrophobic) in a highly polar phase of water molecules are attracted to one another and accumulate at the water/air surface. Polar organics that are highly soluble in water are not effectively removed, hence the limited effectiveness of skimmers that is often stated.
 
Are you asking why dissolved organics stick to air bubbles?

If so, then this quote is from the article below:
DOCs are the waste molecules skimmers are designed to remove; these are produced as byproducts from the breakdown of biological materials. This pollution arises from not only the deliberate input of foods in our tank but also from decaying organic matter (bacteria, algaes, etc). DOCs are bipolar molecules; these surfactants are attracted to air/water interfaces, i.e., bubbles. A bipolar molecule contains one or more atoms attracted to air, and one or more atoms attracted to water. A skimmer exploits this difference in the following manner:

"As an air bubble moves through the column of organic-laden water, the electrically charged protein molecules (which contain electrically polar and electrically nonpolar regions) are attracted to the air/water interface of the bubble. The polar regions of the molecule (made up of nitrogens, oxygens, etc.) are attracted to the air/water interface and these polar "tails" stick out away from the air bubble into the water column. The nonpolar regions stick out into the air bubble because it does not "like" to be in contact with the polar solvent (i.e. water). If you could look at this bubble under high enough magnification down to the molecular level, the entire air bubble would look like a fuzzy ball with protein tails and other electrically charged tails sticking out from the surface of the air bubble. The polar regions outside of the air bubble stabilize the air bubble very much like a soap bubble in your kitchen sink or your washing machine. This is the reason why foam begins to build up at the surface of the skimmer. As the protein-laden bubble reaches the top of the protein skimmer, the proteins begin to accumulate which creates a stable foam bubble. These stable foam bubbles take a long time to pop. Thus, the proteins slowly are concentrated at the top of the skimmer where they are slowly pushed through the "throat" of the protein skimmer and into the collection cup."


This article was written before most needlewheel skimmers started to get popular, but don't discount it. Not only are the basics all the same, most of the best skimmers out there are still venturi, downdraft and beckett.
 
Are you asking why dissolved organics stick to air bubbles?

If so, then this quote is from the article below:



This article was written before most needlewheel skimmers started to get popular, but don't discount it. Not only are the basics all the same, most of the best skimmers out there are still venturi, downdraft and beckett.
Thank you. It makes much more sense now
 
I built my first skimmer 32 yrs ago give or take and all I recall is that it was used in water processing plants. Foam fractioner is what they were called. Fast forward all these years, I still don't know how the proteins adhere to the bubbles but it does and I still have my skimmer.

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