Why is my GSP closed

[jpshoemaker46]

I could never keep it alive either, lol

How come?

 

[Shaina Carey]

How come?

It would just die on me. Tried it twice and then I said "screw it" and got something else

 

[jpshoemaker46]

It would just die on me. Tried it twice and then I said "screw it" and got something else

That’s crazy because these corals are so hardy!

 

[Naekuh]

GSP likes water to be a bit dirty from my experience.

Also when it takes off, it toastes your water chemistry unless you got a large tank as a buffer, hence why i realized after its grown to a critical size, it just burns itself out without moderate dosing, which is where my statement, leave it alone comes to play.

I used to love the bright super metalic GSP.
Then i realized Banana and other exotic Torches and it was Game Overs.
Now i know why once a fish goes rouge on corals, they always go after the the most EXPENSIVE stuff first.

 

[GSPClown94]

It’s hard to tell from the picture but is there any sort of algae or dinos growing on the GSP? I had my GSP close up for two months before when dealing with dinos, it was perfectly fine and opened back up once the dino issue was fixed.

 

[Manpeckz]

 

[jpshoemaker46]

It’s hard to tell from the picture but is there any sort of algae or dinos growing on the GSP? I had my GSP close up for two months before when dealing with dinos, it was perfectly fine and opened back up once the dino issue was fixed.

Minimal algae and not sure about dinos

 

[jpshoemaker46]

GSP likes water to be a bit dirty from my experience.

Also when it takes off, it toastes your water chemistry unless you got a large tank as a buffer, hence why i realized after its grown to a critical size, it just burns itself out without moderate dosing, which is where my statement, leave it alone comes to play.

I used to love the bright super metalic GSP.
Then i realized Banana and other exotic Torches and it was Game Overs.
Now i know why once a fish goes rouge on corals, they always go after the the most EXPENSIVE stuff first.

Think I should just leave it alone? Gonna get rid of those snails tho first

 

[Manpeckz]

On a serious note is there anyway to get a more clear picture of some of the larger white masses in your GSP?

These just look nothing like the vermetid snails that I deal with. Mostly for me they grow on the coral skeleton just beside the tissue and on my rock work. Whatever this is looks like some sort of spongey mass growing in between polyps rather.

For example, the top right section of connected mass in between the polyps..

 

[jpshoemaker46]

On a serious note is there anyway to get a more clear picture of some of the larger white masses in your GSP?

These just look nothing like the vermetid snails that I deal with. Mostly for me they grow on the coral skeleton just beside the tissue and on my rock work. Whatever this is looks like some sort of spongey mass growing in between polyps rather.

For example, the top right section of connected mass in between the polyps..

Once I get back home I’ll get a better picture

 

[MnFish1]

Is there a reason my GSP is closed! It’s not as open as it used to be and all my parameters are the same! I check like almost every other day and nothing is changed!

What parameters are you checking?
Did you do a water change or something else?
Is something picking on it?
Did you change light?

GSP can close for many many reasons - I would think about the above. The good news is they can keep shut for weeks. Are you using activated carbon? What else is next to them>

 

[MnFish1]

GSP likes water to be a bit dirty from my experience.

Also when it takes off, it toastes your water chemistry unless you got a large tank as a buffer, hence why i realized after its grown to a critical size, it just burns itself out without moderate dosing, which is where my statement, leave it alone comes to play.

I used to love the bright super metalic GSP.
Then i realized Banana and other exotic Torches and it was Game Overs.
Now i know why once a fish goes rouge on corals, they always go after the the most EXPENSIVE stuff first.

OK - I'm going to disagree with everyone of your points (to a degree) - Disagree with 'dirty water' - except that dirty water can mean decreased light. (However if you look at my thread - I have a GSP which I kept (easily contained its about 2 feet long). - It survived everything - and if you look - it's at the top of the tank - at about 500 par - but if you also look at the YouTube channel - you can see the flow rate.

However, it probably does use chemicals/feeding/chemicals - but no more or less than others (and possibly less Ca/Alk than acropora)

But I might have been lucky - in that it didn't spread except this rock - then pieces would hang down - and be clipped off.

 

[jpshoemaker46]

it looks like you have a bit of vermetidae snails.
When they feed they excete like this nasty mucus which most corals do not appreciate.

But like TX states, we need to know chemistry more, and possibly what other corals are near it.

Aren’t vermatid snails have hard tubes? These are soft

 

[Patx]

Vermetid ≈ hard... dang hard ! Lol

So maybe sponge or a type of filter feeders.
Anyway that's bring us to just clean the gsp

 

[MnFish1]

Aren’t vermatid snails have hard tubes? These are soft

yes - and either way - I don't see them as causing your issue

 

[jpshoemaker46]

Vermetid ≈ hard... dang hard ! Lol

So maybe sponge or a type of filter feeders.
Anyway that's bring us to just clean the gsp

Ya I’ll scrub it off

 

[MnFish1]

Ya I’ll scrub it off

am going to give you opposite advice - leave it alone - its closed because its got an angry sign from something in the water. (toxin/chemical) - just leave it - and put some carbon in. Unless something is grossly covering the GSP - then - scrub

 

[jpshoemaker46]

am going to give you opposite advice - leave it alone - its closed because its got an angry sign from something in the water. (toxin/chemical) - just leave it - and put some carbon in. Unless something is grossly covering the GSP - then - scrub

Gotcha ok it does open during the day but not all of it and not fully extended! Snails and hermit crabs try to grasp on it

 

[MnFish1]

Gotcha ok it does open during the day but not all of it and not fully extended! Snails and hermit crabs try to grasp on it

IMHO - the multiple crabs do not eat GSP

 

[jpshoemaker46]

IMHO - the multiple crabs do not eat GSP

I know that lol probably a reason they are closed