why no britstleworm kits?

[SlugSnorter]

Wouldn't it be cool if they sold the coolest and best bristleworm verities as kits? it would be great for seeding tanks and making sure you get "good" worms that wont bother anything and can be the best for your biotype

 

[brandon429]

they could bundle them with aiptasia packs and pyramid snail packs for a triple threat

when I used to feed corals at night before ridding bristle worms, I'd come check out the tank and two or three would be buried fully inside my acans with all the mesenteries spit out in total stress. Once all the worms were gone the lps just had common feeder tentacles.

In nature the stress from the worms is part of natural selection stress, but I don't want that in play for an $80 frag was trying to grow out

 

[JumboShrimp]

Get the word out that you are “accepting Bristle Worm donations”… I bet you get packages sent to you from all over the world! LOL.

 

[tautog83]

Right, I dipped ever coral. Started out with dry rock , snipped every frag plug guess what I had, bristleworms . You'll get them no matter how hard you try not to

 

[SlugSnorter]

they could bundle them with aiptasia packs and pyramid snail packs for a triple threat

when I used to feed corals at night before ridding bristle worms, I'd come check out the tank and two or three would be buried fully inside my acans with all the mesenteries spit out in total stress. Once all the worms were gone the lps just had common feeder tentacles.

In nature the stress from the worms is part of natural selection stress, but I don't want that in play for an $80 frag was trying to grow out

Not all worms annoy corals, thats why it would be good to have a pack that gets a population of worms large enough to not leave a niche for the annoying ones,

 

[SlugSnorter]

Right, I dipped ever coral. Started out with dry rock , snipped every frag plug guess what I had, bristleworms . You'll get them no matter how hard you try not to

But you have nearly no control over which you get

 

[Dkmoo]

I have thousands of them that has never harmed any corals. I absolutely love them, they are amazing detrivors that keeps the tank clean of anything dead or dying that I never need to worry about "carcass removal"

If you are in the NYC area feel free to dm me and I'll give you a cup of my sand

You'll probably get some spaghetti worms and pods from that sand too. I have a very mature and diverse sandbed

 

[Greybeard]

Used to be just such packs, back when DSB's were all the rage...

Garf, Inland Aquatics, and a few others, used to sell Detritivore kits, came with bristle worms, along with many other sand dwelling critters:


Sadly, most of these companies are long gone. Garf is still there, but I don't think they've updated their website since Leroy passed in 2012.

Indo Pacific Sea Farms (ISPF) is about the only vendor left. Spaghetti worms, bristle worms, amphipods, micro stars... All kinds of cool critters. Pricy, though.

I'm not going to argue with folks about the desirability of bristle worms, amphipods, gammarus shrimp, micro brittle stars, asterina type stars... no reason for me to try. Lots of space in this world for folks that like 'em, and folks that will tear a tank apart trying to get rid of em.

To each their own.

Me? I like my reef as biologically diverse as I can get it. These days, it's hard to accomplish. A couple of samples from ISPF, a bit of sustainably harvested live rock and sand from the gulf, shipped wet... if I can get it. Getting harder and harder to find. Sand bed samples from healthy reefs in our local club used to be an excellent source... again, local clubs are fading away.

 

[SlugSnorter]

Used to be just such packs, back when DSB's were all the rage...

Garf, Inland Aquatics, and a few others, used to sell Detritivore kits, came with bristle worms, along with many other sand dwelling critters:


Sadly, most of these companies are long gone. Garf is still there, but I don't think they've updated their website since Leroy passed in 2012.

Indo Pacific Sea Farms (ISPF) is about the only vendor left. Spaghetti worms, bristle worms, amphipods, micro stars... All kinds of cool critters. Pricy, though.

I'm not going to argue with folks about the desirability of bristle worms, amphipods, gammarus shrimp, micro brittle stars, asterina type stars... no reason for me to try. Lots of space in this world for folks that like 'em, and folks that will tear a tank apart trying to get rid of em.

To each their own.

Me? I like my reef as biologically diverse as I can get it. These days, it's hard to accomplish. A couple of samples from ISPF, a bit of sustainably harvested live rock and sand from the gulf, shipped wet... if I can get it. Getting harder and harder to find. Sand bed samples from healthy reefs in our local club used to be an excellent source... again, local clubs are fading away.

DSB's?

regardless, you can also ask some local reefers for a few worms and such, im sure they wouldn't mind.

 

[LiveFreeAndReef]

DSB's?

regardless, you can also ask some local reefers for a few worms and such, im sure they wouldn't mind.

DSB=deep sand bed

 

[SlugSnorter]

DSB=deep sand bed

ah, okay

edit: what are the benefits to having one? doesn't a fuge do the same but without having to have more sand then needed in the DT?

 

[Greybeard]

ah, okay

edit: what are the benefits to having one? doesn't a fuge do the same but without having to have more sand then needed in the DT?

Benefits are in scale. How big a fuge do you have room for? My old DSB system had 6" of sugar fine Southdown play sand covering the entire bottom of the tank. 600 lbs of dry sand, if I remember right, in a 240 gallon tank.

Healthiest tank I've ever owned... for a while. I could grow ANYTHING in that tank. A functioning DSB is basically a nutrient sink. For a period of time, it works great. Then it doesn't.

These days, it's possible to keep nutrient levels down, even to the point of needing to DOSE nitrates and phosphate, without resorting to such a method. We didn't have the tools and techniques that are available today.

 

[LiveFreeAndReef]

ah, okay

edit: what are the benefits to having one? doesn't a fuge do the same but without having to have more sand then needed in the DT?

The main purpose of a DSB was to promote the growth of anaerobic bacteria that would consume nitrates. They've fallen out of fashion as our filtration methods have improved greatly

 

[SlugSnorter]

The main purpose of a DSB was to promote the growth of anaerobic bacteria that would consume nitrates. They've fallen out of fashion as our filtration methods have improved greatly

I see, thank you