Why the 25 post minimum for trades?
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First, responding to posts does count towards your post count. You have a post count of 17 and you've started 13 threads, so your 4 responses counted.
Second, the classified forums (buy/sell/trade) are a benefit for members to contribute to R2R. This contribution is in the form of activity. R2R has a requirement of 25 posts and 30 days of membership, which is a much easier requirement than most other forums have (reef related or otherwise). Most forums have a much higher post count and longer membership requirement.
Unlike most other forums, our post count/membership requirement does not prohibit you from responding to classified posts. You're invited to respond to posts all you want, until you've met the requirements for starting your own threads, in the classified forums.
Third, this requirement also protects our members from some unethical people who will join a forum for the sole purpose of selling.
Second, the classified forums (buy/sell/trade) are a benefit for members to contribute to R2R. This contribution is in the form of activity. R2R has a requirement of 25 posts and 30 days of membership, which is a much easier requirement than most other forums have (reef related or otherwise). Most forums have a much higher post count and longer membership requirement.
Unlike most other forums, our post count/membership requirement does not prohibit you from responding to classified posts. You're invited to respond to posts all you want, until you've met the requirements for starting your own threads, in the classified forums.
Third, this requirement also protects our members from some unethical people who will join a forum for the sole purpose of selling.
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Just an FYI, spamming the Lounge, to reach the minimum requirement, doesn't reflect a "contributing member."
FishBeard
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So someone who simply wants to be part of a community for the purpose of buying and selling to save money and get others good deals, should be considered unethical?
btkrausen
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Try reading Sids post again as that is not what he said. The post count requirements are also for R2R members protection.
You'll notice, since you quoted part of my statement, that I didn't say anything about buying. R2R's main purpose is not to offer people a place to sell. That's what Craigslist and Ebay are for. So, someone who joins the community, doesn't contribute, and only sells, YES, that's unethical. R2R resources aren't meant to be "mined" for profit, by members. OUr 25/30 requirement protects members from that type of activity.
Unfortunately, the software doesn't allow for enforcing the requirement just for "selling," so the 25 post/30 days of membership requirement is set to be required before allowing a thread to be started, in the classified forums.
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huuta
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i've ask the same question before also and have come to like this requirement.I'm part of another local forum and as of late there has been alot of peoples joinning and selling on it right away just to try and move their stuff and never contribute anything to the forum.no interaction of any kind
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FishBeard
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What I don't like is someone calling people unethical for wanting to buy/sell. So I been here a year and have a low post count, doesn't mean I don't visit regularly. So if I want to sell some nice corals and equipment for great prices to help other reefers out, it's unethical of me to do so because I'm not a big contributor to the rest of the site? Sorry but that just rubbed me the wrong way as I'm sure it did plenty of others that read that, who haven't spoken up.
FishBeard, you are still missing the message. You have over 100 posts and are a good contributor to the site. We have these policies in place so that folks don't join R2R to just sell things (we would much prefer someone join R2R to contribute to the site). This rule was developed because we had issues of folks joining, sellling, and then not following through with shipping things (hobbyists were getting ripped off). This has happened on a lot of sites and that is why "minimums" are on just about every reef site out there.
Nobody is calling anyone unethical. I'm guessing if a reefer joined the site, sold you a skimmer, you paid but never rec'd the items, you would have an issue with that correct? I know I would. And I would call that unethical. You would likely wonder why we didn't have something in place to protect our members right? It has happened before and it will happen again. We do everything we can to eliminate that possibility.
You are concentrating on one word of a 100 word post. We have rules here...to protect you and every other member of our site. You are entitled to your opinion and I respect that. You need to understand the context in which "unethical" was used. It wasn't towards you or any other member. It was used in the context of someone who would join the site to sell goods and not ship. I don't think that describes you so please don't take it as such.
Nobody is calling anyone unethical. I'm guessing if a reefer joined the site, sold you a skimmer, you paid but never rec'd the items, you would have an issue with that correct? I know I would. And I would call that unethical. You would likely wonder why we didn't have something in place to protect our members right? It has happened before and it will happen again. We do everything we can to eliminate that possibility.
You are concentrating on one word of a 100 word post. We have rules here...to protect you and every other member of our site. You are entitled to your opinion and I respect that. You need to understand the context in which "unethical" was used. It wasn't towards you or any other member. It was used in the context of someone who would join the site to sell goods and not ship. I don't think that describes you so please don't take it as such.
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huuta
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i apologized if it offend you for the statement that i made.The way i see it if u visit the site regularly then u are a good member of the site but if u pop on just to move your stuff u have and then not ship or visit the site again then u are not a good member in my eyes.let me say sorry if this offend anyone but that is the way i feel
chasethis1
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How often though do you think that someone would join just to sell something? I dont feel compelled to reply to some of the posts that I read. I have posted looking for information and have received some nice responses, some not so nice and some of the sponsors just chose not to reply all together.
I have not come to a point in my hobby that I have anything that I want to offer for sale on this forum, since I share trade or sell to members of the local club that I am a member of.
I do enjoy cruising this site though for all the great ideas and insight.
I guess Ill try to be more responsive to some of the posts that I am looking at. Since posting "Sweet Zoa man" can be considered contributing to the site.
I have not come to a point in my hobby that I have anything that I want to offer for sale on this forum, since I share trade or sell to members of the local club that I am a member of.
I do enjoy cruising this site though for all the great ideas and insight.
I guess Ill try to be more responsive to some of the posts that I am looking at. Since posting "Sweet Zoa man" can be considered contributing to the site.
FishBeard, if you're unwilling to re-read my original post, or at least take it in the context that it was written, I don't know how else to make you understand.
Once again, since you quoted my post, you SHOULD have noticed that I did not use the word "buy," but only used the word "sell." Nowhere in my post did I describe YOU. I described people who, IF we didn't have the rules that we have, would join, and ONLY sell. I've seen it on many forums, where such rules didn't exist, causing those forums to put such rules in place.
"Sweet Zoa man" could be considered "contributing," unless you're a newer member and have 25 posts that consist of "Sweet Zoa man," or "Nice Pic," or "+1,"... and then immediately after meeting the 25 post requirement, post up a sale thread. That makes it pretty obvious that all that member was doing was post padding their way to being able to sell, instead of actually attempting to contribute to our wonderful community.
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You would be shocked at how many would. For ex. there are some business that would and if they got banned under that user name they could sign up under another one and start selling again. R2R dont make any money off anything members sell on here so having rules is to help protect its members. Be happy its 25/30 most of the other forums Im on is 50/90
joker295
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I think the rule is good.. prevents scammers from hopping on and making a buck off the member.. its a protection for everyone..I'm pretty sure we have all experienced a bad transaction off Craigslist and lost some money from it....
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No need for people to get upset on Easter!! 
We love members who have 0 post and those that have 20,000! The sad fact is that while this does not pertain to most it does pertain to some. You would be surprised how many scammers hit our forums and how we work diligently to keep them at bay and keep them honest. While the rule doesn't stop someone from scamming, it is an extra small layer of help.
This was a good topic and maybe we can all learn from it. Thanks.
We love members who have 0 post and those that have 20,000! The sad fact is that while this does not pertain to most it does pertain to some. You would be surprised how many scammers hit our forums and how we work diligently to keep them at bay and keep them honest. While the rule doesn't stop someone from scamming, it is an extra small layer of help.
This was a good topic and maybe we can all learn from it. Thanks.
btkrausen
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Well said Rev. What most members don't see is the work that goes on in the background to help protect both our members and vendors. To be honest, I was surprised at the work involved to keep the "bad eggs" (Easter pun intended) in check to keep a friendly and trustworthy place for our good standing members.
KJAG
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Im all for it, but it prob wouldn't matter too much if the rule wasn't in place. It's more self-enforcing..For example there's been a cpl recent members in the livestock section trying to move some chop shop items. I haven't seen them sell much if anything. Rep is everything
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Speaking of "bad eggs" I sure hope all of your kids found ALL of the eggs! Every couple of years, in about August, I find one with the lawnmower! I'm not sure how I fail to find it in April, May, June or July, but find it in August, when it's 110 degrees out and the egg is REALLY RIPE!
