Will the real hallucination please stand up

[Rakie]

Yeah, I had to say it.

So these two zoas are both regarded as hallucination zoas, both sold as such, and nobody complains when they get one or the other..

Right now I have both. They are very clearly different zoas.

These are not my pictures my camera can't shoot this level of detail but here's the comparison.

Let me know what you guys think!

 

[nautical_nathaniel]

The top one is what I think of when I hear Hallucination zoa, if I got the bottom after ordering the top, I would be very upset haha

 

[Katrina71]

The top is what I've seen from reputable sellers. I almost bought one last year.

 

[Cherub]

It's like the fake utter chaos that go around. I got dupped recently with the fake utters. I will be careful with these too lol thanks for the heads up

 

[Rakie]

Sure, but which one is fake in your opinion? I see them both sell all the time with no issues as hallucinations. And they're both nice zoas.

It's like the fake utter chaos that go around. I got dupped recently with the fake utters. I will be careful with these too lol thanks for the heads up

 

[Davy Jones]

Either look nice to me, but I do prefer the top photo with the longer, more "frilly" skirts

 

[rlman41299]

From what I know both are hallucinations. The first one is a mature polyp while the mini colony is not mature yet. When I had my hallucinations all babies that have newly grown looks like the cluster and most mature polyps looks different. also lighting will play a part of it.

 

[tankstudy]

From what I know both are hallucinations. The first one is a mature polyp while the mini colony is not mature yet. When I had my hallucinations all babies that have newly grown looks like the cluster and most mature polyps looks different. also lighting will play a part of it.

Utter Chaos will look different based on lighting as well. I kept a colony under 60 par for a long time and it was a predominant orange (70%) with black splashing. Now I have that exact same colony under a lighting system which peaks at 135 par and the coloration has almost completely reversed on the exact same polyps.

However, I don't think all zoas and palys would do such a thing but I wouldn't surprised if this is what those hallucinations are doing.

 

[wowkingjames]

Beautiful zoas, thanks for the info.....

 

[Rakie]

Beautiful zoas, thanks for the info.....

That's definitely the bright side haha

 

[littlebigreef]

I think calling one "real" is a slippery slope.... especially when we're talking about zoas in so far as their physical appearance. (For further proof just take a look at any of the dozen 'ID' threads before or after this one). Traditionally, I'm gonna think of the first pic as being the ideal hall captured in a perfect picture. The second pic is still a slightly better pic than average of what I'd expect it to look like in real life. We all know that skirt size, color, speckling, intensity etc are all dependent on water parameters and vary considerably aquarium to aquarium (also, camera, editing, etc). That you have two slightly different morphs is not surprising. I believe they are both real halls. Is one more real than the other? I don't believe so. Perhaps one is rarer and more desirable because it displays better. Out of curiosity did they come from the same place or separate growers?

I'm say mine are of the second variety.

 

[VbReefer]

Suggest everyone just start calling the top picture
Speckled Hallucinations

 

[James M]

Just called the bottom knock off hallucination

 

[Rakie]

Suggest everyone just start calling the top picture
Speckled Hallucinations

Just called the bottom knock off hallucination

I got it !!!

Top picture Speckled Kracllucinations. Bottom picture OG Hallucination v1.0

$$$$

 

[BlueBuddha]

These are the ones I have

 

[MyReefRobbedMe]

It’s pretty clear that the top pic was better camera , probably using a blue flashlight to intense the colors for the pic and or some type of software to make the colors pop more , I wouldn’t call em fake as zoas differ even in the same tank let alone tank to tank

 

[Jdeleon]

IMO they both could be even off the same strain, just history of how they been handled while growing. Me and a friend have same strain of zoas of several different ones and can tell the difference some better some worse in each tank

 

[cracker]

How much a polyp?

 

[Quinnchero]

How much a polyp?

Too much I'm sure

 

[ReeferB28]

Yeah, I had to say it.

So these two zoas are both regarded as hallucination zoas, both sold as such, and nobody complains when they get one or the other..

Right now I have both. They are very clearly different zoas.

These are not my pictures my camera can't shoot this level of detail but here's the comparison.

Let me know what you guys think!

It's the same zoanthid. Just different adaptations to higher vs lower. I've had hallucinations since last November. Originally, they looked like the ones below. I had them almost at the water surface under coralplus/ halides . Fast forward 4 months, halide burnt out, and t5 bulb was removed for a month or two..then they began to show patterns. Heck, I have a frag that displays both adaptations.