will this skip cycle
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FishPureLuck
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If it's cured and shipped underwater, it should be good to go. You might get a mini cycle if anything dies off, but other than that, you should be good to go.
ScubaShane
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Skip cycle? You mean the rock cycle? No. It will have die off by time is gets to you. It might raise nitrate some in your tank. Is your tank setup? Cycle the tank with the rock untill you have 0 Ammonia. At least two weeks to establish a beneficial bacteria colony.
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As stated, it will help the initial cycle (there really is no such thing as "skipping the cycle"...the nitrogen cycle is ongoing from the moment you set up the tank until it is torn down) but you still might experience some elevated ammonia and nitrites. I would just test frequently and keep an eye on it.
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I transfer over biomedia as well as rock to "skip the cycle". Never seen ammonia this way. So long as its still damp should be good!
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Dave1993
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and ofc you can skip cycle i have done it before with live rock that took 4 days to arrive to me still skipped cycle have you never used live rock before? the crab that came with the rock and kills all my snails begs to differ
Bucs20fan
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If you know this then why did you ask if this will work? A cycle is the establishment of bacteria to eliminate ammonia. There is no scenario where there is no die off from that rock if it has to be shipped. Which will result in ammonia and then result in a subsequent mini cycle, no it will not be anything like starting from dry rock, but it will still be a mini cycle in itself.
livinlifeinBKK
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it'll minimize the cycle but if there's any die off that'll cause a mini cycle but I'd highly recommend using it for a new tank! Plus minimal to no ugly phase ime using all live rock from the ocean
Skip cycle means skip the ammonia burn phase. It means be able to carry animals day one without harm
Like every demo tank at a reef convention since 1983.
It's not the case that ammonia should be zero/ no seneye owners report zero, that's old cycling science designed to sell us bottle bac
If rock comes from the ocean it needs cure time which has nothing to do with adding bacteria, needing more etc curing isn't cycling its allowing non reef tank animals to die and rot in the tank vs removing them ahead of time.
Rock shipped to you from a pet store, cured in a tank not the ocean, will skip cycle ship to you even if they ship in zero water. There's no ocean life to cure, bacteria aren't as weak as posts not using seneye claim they are
The only way to know if someone's mini cycle ever happened is to own a seneye, you can't know it from api or red sea because they indicate the same thing in a normal running reef tank that a mini cycle would constitute to the greater public.
A thread solely on skip cycle tanks, we're up to maybe 20 or so examples:
www.reef2reef.com
I estimate to have collected about ten thousand skip cycle links they're littered across forums going back to about 05. It's the hidden trick that separates buyers from sellers
Buyers never ever ever validate a skip cycle you've got to buy something or wait arbitrary times, times that could never run a reef convention where sellers never have any trouble creating ten thousand dollar instant skip cycle reefs.
The only logical direction at this point is for someone to state those cycles will expire quicker since they were skipped
Like every demo tank at a reef convention since 1983.
It's not the case that ammonia should be zero/ no seneye owners report zero, that's old cycling science designed to sell us bottle bac
If rock comes from the ocean it needs cure time which has nothing to do with adding bacteria, needing more etc curing isn't cycling its allowing non reef tank animals to die and rot in the tank vs removing them ahead of time.
Rock shipped to you from a pet store, cured in a tank not the ocean, will skip cycle ship to you even if they ship in zero water. There's no ocean life to cure, bacteria aren't as weak as posts not using seneye claim they are
The only way to know if someone's mini cycle ever happened is to own a seneye, you can't know it from api or red sea because they indicate the same thing in a normal running reef tank that a mini cycle would constitute to the greater public.
A thread solely on skip cycle tanks, we're up to maybe 20 or so examples:
A thread tracking pure skip cycle instant reefs, no bottle bac
70G Rubbermaid. Added a piece of live rock that’s 2 inch by 2 inch from current tank, 2 rock structures for new build and 4 krill immediately after mixing salt. Tossed 1 pill of vitamin c, d3, and b12. 2 vials of biodigest start and 2 of stop amino. This was Friday. fast forward to Saturday I...
www.reef2reef.com
I estimate to have collected about ten thousand skip cycle links they're littered across forums going back to about 05. It's the hidden trick that separates buyers from sellers
Buyers never ever ever validate a skip cycle you've got to buy something or wait arbitrary times, times that could never run a reef convention where sellers never have any trouble creating ten thousand dollar instant skip cycle reefs.
The only logical direction at this point is for someone to state those cycles will expire quicker since they were skipped
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livinlifeinBKK
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Why not add rock directly from the ocean as long as they don't have a lot of micro/macrofauna to die off? I've started 2 tanks this way ...and don't people get rock shipped directly from companies like TBS and add the rock straight to the tank?
flyingscampi
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I bought some of that rock 18 months ago, but I'd cycled my tank first because I thought the rock far too expensive to risk killing it...
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Buy Premium Cured Live Rock per/Kg on Rock N Critters for £27.99www.rockncritters.co.uk
This is what grew out of it.
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Dave1993
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so that's the exact rock i linked?I bought some of that rock 18 months ago, but I'd cycled my tank first because I thought the rock far too expensive to risk killing it...
This is what grew out of it.
Unfortunately even if you have lots of live rock that have been used to a low ammonia environment it may take three or four days for it to ramp up when plunged into a higher ammonia system. Sure things can survive this increase but a “skip”? Really? Changes in pH, flow, lighting can all impact how live rock reacts. No biggy, just put a free ammonia badge in, they seem reliable.
flyingscampi
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Yep! Rock'n'critters. I only got 1 kg, but with delivery it was £42 :O
Decent live rock is limited in the UK, that was one of few choices and I didn't regret it.
