Will Velvet Killl My Corals After 2 Fish Death

[GoatmealJones]

Within the past 24 hours I have lost a healthy firefish and kole tang. The kole tang has all the signs of velvet and its really bad. My clownfish have spots too. Are my corals at risk of death via velvet? Just invested a considerable amount of money on some nice corals that simply cannot die on me. How do I make sure that the corals will not die, Im already operating under the assumption that all the rest of my infected fish are bound to die soon

 

[Halal Hotdog]

Velvet will not affect your corals and inverts.

Your other fish do not have to die. If you can get them in a QT tank with either copper or choloroquine phosphate, you can cure them.

 

[GoatmealJones]

Just about to buy a 10 gallon QT Tank. Hopefully not too late. What medication should I be looking for specifically? Thank You

 

[Halal Hotdog]

I use choloroquine phosphate that typically requires a prescription but very effective against velvet. Copper also work, only one I've used is cupramine but there are other kinds available. I'm hoping someone chimes in with more info on copper. If you do get CP can walk you through the entire process. Ideally doing a freshwater dip for 5 minutes prior to place them in medicated QT will significantly help reduce number of parasites on the fish.

Many times after fish get velvet they can contract a bacterial infection. Having metroplex on hand will be helpful. Also if you are treating fish, adding General Cure to help treat internal parasites is not a bad either. Not all of this can be added at the same time.

 

[Frtdrmrose7]

Just about to buy a 10 gallon QT Tank. Hopefully not too late. What medication should I be looking for specifically? Thank You

Get copper power start the dosage off at 1.0ppm and get the fish in it. Then start ramping up the levels over the next 48 hours or so to 2.0ppm. Your DT needs to be fallow for 6 weeks and you’ll need to run copper at 2.0 ppm for 30 days.

 

[Nburg's Reef]

The only way velvet can kill corals is indirectly. If you leave the fish in the tank after death, it can create high concentration of ammonia which will kill coral, otherwise the parasite that causes velvet doesn't do squat to coral.

 

[GoatmealJones]

Thank you to all for the help

 

[GoatmealJones]

I use choloroquine phosphate that typically requires a prescription but very effective against velvet. Copper also work, only one I've used is cupramine but there are other kinds available. I'm hoping someone chimes in with more info on copper. If you do get CP can walk you through the entire process. Ideally doing a freshwater dip for 5 minutes prior to place them in medicated QT will significantly help reduce number of parasites on the fish.

Many times after fish get velvet they can contract a bacterial infection. Having metroplex on hand will be helpful. Also if you are treating fish, adding General Cure to help treat internal parasites is not a bad either. Not all of this can be added at the same time.

How do you use the choloroquine phosphate? I can ask my uncle who is a medical doctor to prescribe it to me and gain access. How concentrated of a dose and any research to back up that this is safe?

 

[Halal Hotdog]

How do you use the choloroquine phosphate? I can ask my uncle who is a medical doctor to prescribe it to me and gain access. How concentrated of a dose and any research to back up that this is safe?

CP is the best IMO. Comes in 250mg and 500mg tablets. Actual concentration of active CP is actually 150mg and 300mg respectively. For active infection 60mg/gallon concentration works incredibly well. Remember a 10 gallon tank holds about 6 actual gallons. Hippo tangs and wrasses do not tolerate CP well.

 

[GoatmealJones]

Thanks for the info! Luckily only dealing with a clown pair and a cardinalfish. Will make sure to account for proper water volume using my gallon marked jugs.

 

[Halal Hotdog]

Thanks for the info! Luckily only dealing with a clown pair and a cardinalfish. Will make sure to account for proper water volume using my gallon marked jugs.

No problem. I actually gave up on adding fish until I was able to get ahold of CP.

 

[Scubabum]

Looks like everyone answered you. If you can't find CP I used Seachem Cupermine and was able to save 11 of my fish during a Velvet outbreak. Good luck.

 

[Halal Hotdog]

Looks like everyone answered you. If you can't find CP I used Seachem Cupermine and was able to save 11 of my fish during a Velvet outbreak. Good luck.

Cupramine is also a great product. I know there is a significant difference between chelated vs ionic copper, but don't know enough to really comment.

 

[GoatmealJones]

Per Marine Depot (Seachem Cupramine)

SeaChem Cupramine ™ effectively eradicates ectoparasite of both freshwater and marine fish. It has all the advantages of copper sulfate and chelated copper, but not the disadvantages. Like copper sulfate, it is fully ionic and effective at low concentrations. The cupric (Cu+2) charge is fully active. Like chelates, it is safe for fish and is not precipitated in the filter bed. Unlike both, there is more than a 4x concentration gap between the minimal therpeutic dose and the toxic dose. Unlike copper salts, it is stable in the aquarium, and, unlike chelates, it is easily removed by chemical filtration. Unlike other copper products, it is both highly effective and safe in freshwater as well as marine water. It does not damage the filter bed. Cupramine™ contains 10,000 mg/L of copper and 100 mL treats over 500 gallons. Do not use in conjuction with ParaGuard™. Test for copper with our MultTest: Copper™ kit. Marine or freshwater use.

 

[GoatmealJones]

Anybody know how to sort through the seemingly endless portfolio of Seachems treatment solutions? Will the Cupramine cover everything or should I also look to get Polyguard or Paraguad?

 

[Halal Hotdog]

Anybody know how to sort through the seemingly endless portfolio of Seachems treatment solutions? Will the Cupramine cover everything or should I also look to get Polyguard or Paraguad?

Cupramine should take care of velvet and ich, metroplex if have a secondary bacterial infection, and general cure if you have internal gi parasites.

 

[cmcoker]

Just remember cupramine is a much lower therapeutic concentration of 0.5ppm.

Some fish dont tolerate cupramine as well as chelated copper.