Woke up to dead flame angel....

Heather42 · Feb 13, 2017

So I awoke to find my flame angel at the bottom of my tank in a pile of goo.

My foxface rabbit fish has been hiding under a rock and hasn't moved in hours.

Any idea as to what happened?

The only thing that I think could have possibly done it are maybe fulgida worms (small) or my long tentacle anemone.

Unless maybe the rabbit fish stung the angel?

MaiReef · Feb 13, 2017

What are your parameters? Did you change anything?

ahiggins · Feb 13, 2017

also, how long have you had the fish?

Heather42 · Feb 13, 2017

I tested everything yesterday and all my parameters are perfect.

The flame angel has been in there for about 3 weeks and the rabbit fish 1-2 weeks.

Nothing has changed.

MaiReef · Feb 13, 2017

What are you testing for? What are the parameters that you are testing and what are the results? What size tank?

Breakthecycle2 · Feb 13, 2017

If it's not ammonia, and they died after only a few weeks, it's quite possible it's a parasite.

ebushrow · Feb 13, 2017

How old is the tank? Did you qt?

ahiggins · Feb 13, 2017

or bacterial. Did you see anything like black/white flecks or a black dusty look to them?
labored breathing, nudging rocks with their body?

Heather42 · Feb 13, 2017

I didn't see any signs of ich on either of them. No rubbing on rocks. Very strange.

My clowns and wrasse are all doing great.

Amonia: 0ppm
pH: 8.2
Nitrite: 0ppm
Nitrate: ~12ppm
Phosphate: 0ppm
Mg: 1400ppm
KH: 7.8dKH
Ca: 510ppm
Sg: 1.025 (normally at 1.026)

65 gallon tank
3 months old

Not sure if i should quarantine the rabbit fish. I'm going out of town for a week on friday. Shoot!!

Frop · Feb 13, 2017

No idea

#reefsquad

ebushrow · Feb 13, 2017

I would suggest starting with a freshwater dip for the rabbit fish....see if a bunch of white flakes come off in the water (flukes). Angels are known to be a fluke magnet....easy to check off the list and may help the fish if it is flukes.

Also, you will most likely need to move ALL the fish to qt for treatment.

Frop · Feb 13, 2017

ebushrow said:
I would suggest starting with a freshwater dip for the rabbit fish....see if a bunch of white flakes come off in the water (flukes). Angels are known to be a fluke magnet....easy to check off the list and may help the fish if it is flukes.

Also, you will most likely need to move ALL the fish to qt for treatment.

Ah so the other fish is probably hiding from the light

ebushrow · Feb 13, 2017

possibly...and likely....check out the disease fourm....lots of insight there to help.

https://www.reef2reef.com/forums/fish-disease-treatment-and-diagnosis.771/

@Humblefish
@melypr1985
@4FordFamily

Heather42 · Feb 13, 2017

Does this look like what you are taking about?

melypr1985 · Feb 13, 2017

Hi Heather. I'm very sorry for the loss of your angel. Is your foxface breathing heavy at all? I think I saw that asked, but I'm not sure I saw the answer. I would like for you to do a freshwater dip on the foxface. I'll show you how. It's easy, but you want to be careful not to get stung. We are check for flukes first. This is easy to do and will tell us a lot. Watch the whole video it will show you what to do and what to look for.

Heather42 · Feb 13, 2017

Thank you very much.

Yea he kinda seems to be.

I will try and see if I can catch him and try that. I'll wear my aqua gloves so I don't get stung. I've heard that sucks.

melypr1985 · Feb 13, 2017

Heather42 said:
I've heard that sucks.

It does indeed. Been there.

Heather42 · Feb 13, 2017

Did a dip and nothing came off at all....

melypr1985 · Feb 13, 2017

Heather42 said:
Did a dip and nothing came off at all....

Alrighty, so that rules out flukes for us. Was the foxface breathing heavy before the dip? How is he doing after? Breathing easy? Acting normal? Are any of the fish in the tank scratching or rubbing against the sand or rocks every now and then?