Would appreciate an ID

[Baronen]

Hi there. This is six day old TB Gulf live rock going through the ugly phase. I’ve got 4 or so of these bigger anemones. One actually appeared right next to some candy canes and both are fully inflated touching each other. The size, coloring and the fact it’s not ticking off my candy canes leads me to believe this isn’t aiptasia. Also that they rarely appear on gulf rock

also, I’ve got this weird red things that appeared today. All are different shapes and sizes. Tunicates?

 

[vetteguy53081]

Hi there. This is six day old TB Gulf live rock going through the ugly phase. I’ve got 4 or so of these bigger anemones. One actually appeared right next to some candy canes and both are fully inflated touching each other. The size, coloring and the fact it’s not ticking off my candy canes leads me to believe this isn’t aiptasia. Also that they rarely appear on gulf rock

also, I’ve got this weird red things that appeared today. All are different shapes and sizes. Tunicates?

Its an aptasia anemne and a pest specimen. To get rid of it, apply a dab of gel superglue in the very center or Using syringe, inject either lemon juice or better yet. . kalkwasser powder mixed with tank water into a paste the consistency of toothpaste and inject into the very center core and it will melt away

 

[Eagle_Steve]

Hi there. This is six day old TB Gulf live rock going through the ugly phase. I’ve got 4 or so of these bigger anemones. One actually appeared right next to some candy canes and both are fully inflated touching each other. The size, coloring and the fact it’s not ticking off my candy canes leads me to believe this isn’t aiptasia. Also that they rarely appear on gulf rock

also, I’ve got this weird red things that appeared today. All are different shapes and sizes. Tunicates?

Can you get a pic of them in white light. While possibly a nem in the aip family, more than likely not a type of aip we usually see in the hobby.

 

[JoJosReef]

If that's TBS rock, I'd consider other possibilities. It could be a cup coral, but hard to tell under blues. Can you take a pic under whites? Have you added frags from other sources? Although, as you say it is relatively new and that's a big guy, I'd be skeptical of it coming from a frag... I think the second pic is tunicates.

Get ready for some surprises with those rocks! I've had mine for 8 months and I JUST found 2 very small porcelain crabs that I'm making friends with!

 

[Baronen]

Its an aptasia anemne and a pest specimen. To get rid of it, apply a dab of gel superglue in the very center or Using syringe, inject either lemon juice or better yet. . kalkwasser powder mixed with tank water into a paste the consistency of toothpaste and inject into the very center core and it will melt away

I’ve had aiptasia before and this doesn’t look like it. It’s also got a raise mouth with some coloring. It’s not as “wispy” as aiptasia either. Seems to be more meat to it

 

[JoJosReef]

Also, does the oral disk protrude from the rock by a stalk? Or does it sit pretty flush against the rock?

 

[vetteguy53081]

I’ve had aiptasia before and this doesn’t look like it. It’s also got a raise mouth with some coloring. It’s not as “wispy” as aiptasia either. Seems to be more meat to it

aptasia mutabilis

 

[Eagle_Steve]

I’ve had aiptasia before and this doesn’t look like it. It’s also got a raise mouth with some coloring. It’s not as “wispy” as aiptasia either. Seems to be more meat to it

Get a white light pic of everything and even use a flash light if needed, I can more than likely ID all for you.

 

[Eagle_Steve]

aptasia mutabilis

Not to sure on it being one of those. Gulf waters typically get to warm for them. Not to mention, from what I can see in the pic, the rows of tents and tent spacing is not correct. Not saying it is not one, but a better pic under white light is needed for a positive ID.

 

[vetteguy53081]

Not to sure on it being one of those. Gulf waters typically get to warm for them. Not to mention, from what I can see in the pic, the rows of tents and tent spacing is not correct. Not saying it is not one, but a better pic under white light is needed for a positive ID.

Agree on better pic especially viewing it on a phone screen

 

[Baronen]

Hey got some photos. Finally figured out how to work the reef beat app. Also just attached some more stuff ( not asking ids just think it’s cool) also cup corals, feather dusters, clams

 

[Eagle_Steve]

Pic 1 (fca85683....) looks like a banded nem (Isarachnanthus nocturnus), they do not always live in the sand.

Other nem looks to be an Aiptasia diaphana or an Aiptasia pulchella. Possibly a type of exaiptasia also. The first being invasive and the second, not so much. The "possible" one it all depends on the type.The first 2 are being recorded in Gulf waters as of late and have been logged numerous times on some gulf rock collected. There is also the possibilty it could be a curlyque nem, as when little, they do not get as "curly". Hard to tell from the pic though. I am stil leaning towards one of the first 2 stated for this one.

With any of these, as the are NPS, they do not need light. But they can still be removed very easily.

You will want to remove the Aip one with a small nem cannon. Link below, just down size it to a 3/8" pex pipe or a slurpie straw in a really small sponge. I say to not nuke them, as both of those nems can self fertilize and that can lead to an outbreak. Using a nem cannon, even though they are NPS still works, as they will not want to sit in stagnet water with no flow. They will move up the "cannon" and then can be peeled off outside of the tank and disposed of. Kalk paste , lemon juice or vinegar can work, but I would try a small nem cannon first.

For the one that looks like a banded nem, I would just watch it to see if it reaches way up and out of the rock after lights out. If it does, it is a tube type nem for sure, if not, it could be "cousin" of the warty nem. They do not reproduce like mad, but will need to be fed to live. There are currently 9 types of these nems with no classification yet. Although that is being worked on.

End of day, you got some awesome stuff and one or 2 may need to go.

Here is the link to the nem cannon. Again, just down size it. 1/3 of the diameter of the nem usually works best, as they get smaller when they retract.

Safe and Easy DIY way to remove Nems

Due to seeing numerous post recently about how to remove anemones and shrooms without hurting them or destroying rock work. I felt like this was in order. First off, a little back story. Years ago, when I lived in Florida and collected aquatic life on a regular basis, we always had issues with...

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[Baronen]

Pic 1 (fca85683....) looks like a banded nem (Isarachnanthus nocturnus), they do not always live in the sand.

Other nem looks to be an Aiptasia diaphana or an Aiptasia pulchella. Possibly a type of exaiptasia also. The first being invasive and the second, not so much. The "possible" one it all depends on the type.The first 2 are being recorded in Gulf waters as of late and have been logged numerous times on some gulf rock collected. There is also the possibilty it could be a curlyque nem, as when little, they do not get as "curly". Hard to tell from the pic though. I am stil leaning towards one of the first 2 stated for this one.

With any of these, as the are NPS, they do not need light. But they can still be removed very easily.

You will want to remove the Aip one with a small nem cannon. Link below, just down size it to a 3/8" pex pipe or a slurpie straw in a really small sponge. I say to not nuke them, as both of those nems can self fertilize and that can lead to an outbreak. Using a nem cannon, even though they are NPS still works, as they will not want to sit in stagnet water with no flow. They will move up the "cannon" and then can be peeled off outside of the tank and disposed of. Kalk paste , lemon juice or vinegar can work, but I would try a small nem cannon first.

For the one that looks like a banded nem, I would just watch it to see if it reaches way up and out of the rock after lights out. If it does, it is a tube type nem for sure, if not, it could be "cousin" of the warty nem. They do not reproduce like mad, but will need to be fed to live. There are currently 9 types of these nems with no classification yet. Although that is being worked on.

End of day, you got some awesome stuff and one or 2 may need to go.

Here is the link to the nem cannon. Again, just down size it. 1/3 of the diameter of the nem usually works best, as they get smaller when they retract.

Safe and Easy DIY way to remove Nems

Due to seeing numerous post recently about how to remove anemones and shrooms without hurting them or destroying rock work. I felt like this was in order. First off, a little back story. Years ago, when I lived in Florida and collected aquatic life on a regular basis, we always had issues with...

www.reef2reef.com

Thank you for the reply. Very thorough. The possible aiptasia one really recoiled when I turned on the whites. It’s the same one i posted with the blues. I can try to get a better pic tonight if that would help. Sounds like to be safe I should remove them all anyway though?

also, any idea on the red things? And while we are at it what is the ff4c7 coral.

again thanks everyone!

 

[JoJosReef]

Corky finger gorgonian?

 

[Baronen]

Corky finger gorgonian?

It behaves like a coral. Extends polyps during the day and shrivels up at night. Do gorgonians do this as well?

 

[SaltyT]

Nice rock! I have the same nems on my gulf live rock. @Eagle_Steve is correct that they are not pest aiptasia and are an undescribed species of anemone. They tend to stay out of direct light and away from corals and other nems so the one next to your candy canes will likely move away from them.

Every shipment of gulf live rock I've gotten has had these nems on it I've never had one reproduce or cause any problems in my reefs. Here's one of mine that has been in the back corner of my tank for about 3yrs.

BTW, the red things in your first post are tunicates

 

[Baronen]

Yeah I’ve had baby aiptasia pop up around coral colonies and it causes retracting of the corals. These guys seem to cohabitate with what’s around them. I am more of a leave it and see kinda person with my reef tank as long as it’s not killing anything I am not too picky on that fact that it is taking up space for prettier options

 

[Baronen]

Thanks guys and saltyt that’s exactly what mine look like!

 

[Eagle_Steve]

Thanks guys and saltyt that’s exactly what mine look like!

Sweet. That is a good thing, as those guys are basically harmless. They struggle to even capture and hold a pod lol.

 

[Baronen]

Things just keep appearing with this rock. Recently discovered a Christmas tree worm, some sort of little urchin and some sort of star fish (not brittle) possibly. They looks like little squid tentacle arms popping out of the rock. Funny thing is I haven’t seen any bristle worms, or bristle stars. Maybe they all died in transit. Also say some sorta larva (quite big) scurrying around. Even the red finger sponge that was exposed to air for 24 hours is somehow growing and branching.


anybody know the ff4c7 coral? Can’t find an id on this one!