Wrasse in QT

[JoshKReef]

Yesterday I finished my second round of prazi, did a water change and started running carbon. Today this is how he looks. There is a coral beauty in there with him too that is doing well.

I think his eye is cloudy and he's obviously breathing heavily. The video was taken right after I fed.

Any advice?

 

[Big G]

Are you going to or have you already treated with copper? Did it eat?

 

[JoshKReef]

Are you going to or have you already treated with copper? Did it eat?

It eats, I was going to start copper Sunday.

 

[Maritimer]

Something is clearly impacting his gills ...

There are Prazi-resistant flukes, which might also explain the cloudy eyes. (Though this species normally has a green/blue cast to its eyes.) A freshwater dip might let you know if they're an issue.

Velvet has been known to run through a tank without really showing spots, lurking almost exclusively in the fish's gills.

Copper sounds like a good idea.

~Bruce

 

[Big G]

Sometimes Prazi can cause oxygen depletion in the water. Do you have a air stone you can put into the tank and if you have a powerhead capable aim it up towards the surface to increase oxygen exchange.

 

[JoshKReef]

I have an airstone running already, I did slow it down a little after I did the water change and started running carbon.

I never have done the freshwater dip to test for flukes, any info on that?

 

[Maritimer]

Here's a crystal clear video from Melypr1985: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/video-how-to-do-a-freshwater-dip.286639/#post-3487082

~Bruce

 

[Big G]

I'd turn the stone up. Here's the complete freshwater dip process from our own Meredith: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/video-how-to-do-a-freshwater-dip.286639/#post-3487082

 

[JoshKReef]

Here's a crystal clear video from Melypr1985: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/video-how-to-do-a-freshwater-dip.286639/#post-3487082

~Bruce

Thanks, when I get home I'll turn my airstone up and probably dip in the AM.

 

[JoshKReef]

I did it this morning, shortly after feeding... I'm not sure if I got a few pieces of LRS in my net or this is flukes... He didn't like the dip, at all! How common is a prazi resistant strand? Could I remove carbon and do prazi again? Or what should my next steps be?

 

[Big G]

Flukes after a freshwater dip will look like little sesame seeds on the bottom of your bowl. Hard to see because of the texture of the bowl. But it doesn't look like it has a fluke problem. How's its breathing? I'd give it a bath in acriflavine or Rally Ruby Reef. And then get it into some copper. Coppersafe is suggested as the best for wrasses. Raise the copper slowly for wrasses. 5-7 days to reach therapeutic range is suggested, unless an emergency treatment is needed for velvet.

Coppersafe is chelated copper. It has a much higher therapeutic range of 1.5-2.0 mg/L or ppm. As such, you need a “total copper test kit” such as API’s to measure Coppersafe.

 

[JoshKReef]

Do you know if local stores carry either of those?

He's definitely not doing any better after the dip. Maybe worse. Laying on his side breathing heavy.

 

[Maritimer]

I'm certain that some local stores carry those meds ... not so certain about stores local to you, though.

The flake in your cup doesn't look like a fluke at all - possibly a random bit of fishfood.

Key with copper and wrasses is, as Big-G mentioned, to raise the levels slowly. I've had good luck with fairy wrasses in Coppersafe, using API's test kit to confirm copper levels in the water.

Little guy does look stressed - which is normal after a freshwater bath.

~Bruce

 

[JoshKReef]

So you agree on the bath above then start copper?

 

[Maritimer]

The Acriflavin would possibly help - it's an antiseptic - but I can't say for certain that it's essential. So far, are there any other symptoms besides lethargy and rapid breathing? Acriflavin helps with velvet, it's less essential with ich.

~Bruce

 

[JoshKReef]

The Acriflavin would possibly help - it's an antiseptic - but I can't say for certain that it's essential. So far, are there any other symptoms besides lethargy and rapid breathing? Acriflavin helps with velvet, it's less essential with ich.

~Bruce

No, he ate before the dip too. But was still breathing heavily. He also forces himself under my PVC fittings. My coppersafe arrives tomorrow. Also, the coral beauty in the tank is fine

 

[Maritimer]

I would proceed as planned, then - unless @melypr1985 or @Humblefish can offer deeper insights.

~Bruce

 

[JoshKReef]

I would proceed as planned, then - unless @melypr1985 or @Humblefish can offer deeper insights.

~Bruce

It couldn't have anything to do with the carbon right? I just used the bag that came with my hang on back filter

 

[rpeters]

I'm in the same boat https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/naoko-wrasse-lying-and-breathing-heavy.350752/ mine still alive but nothing I have thrown at it seems to help.

 

[JoshKReef]

I'm in the same boat https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/naoko-wrasse-lying-and-breathing-heavy.350752/ mine still alive but nothing I have thrown at it seems to help.

Did you ever get to trying copper?