Yellow coral turning green?

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First I must state that I have read the "Guide of SPS coral coloration (make them more vivid, bright)". I read the small paragraph about yellow corals. The problem is I don't have high nutrients so this article (paragraph) is not addressing any other cause of yellow corals turning green. Furthermore, I had a Triton water test done lately and they recommended feeding more as my PO4 level was low! The nitrate level is low too, being 0.5- 1.0 ppm.
Anyone else with any info besides reading that guide?? Apparently, there must be something else going on besides high nutrient levels.
 
First I must state that I have read the "Guide of SPS coral coloration (make them more vivid, bright)". I read the small paragraph about yellow corals. The problem is I don't have high nutrients so this article (paragraph) is not addressing any other cause of yellow corals turning green. Furthermore, I had a Triton water test done lately and they recommended feeding more as my PO4 level was low! The nitrate level is low too, being 0.5- 1.0 ppm.
Anyone else with any info besides reading that guide?? Apparently, there must be something else going on besides high nutrient levels.


They also need the right light spectrum and par levels. What are your nutrient levels? How about a little info about your tank? Size, number of fish, how often you feed and what, and additives, do you have other sps?
 
That's actually not a lot of light for sps corals. The par is right where I want it. What kind of coral do you have?
I agree actually. Most folks run thier light so low nowadays. Hitting 500 par at the top of a tank freaks people out now.

I'm mixed reef. Acros to zoas and lps.

I've been researching for a difinitive answer to coral greening. Still not 100% sure if it's an overdose of light and too much time or a specific spectrum component.

I know a few folks personally using much more light than you or I with a fairly long photoperiod as well with no problembs.
 
I think 'Saltyfilmfolks' hit the nail on the head with his comments about high percentage of blue light. One often sees yellow to green comments when LEDs are used and I've encountered this myself when a cream-yellow Acro from a MH/T5 system turned green in my LED one with no measurable PO4 and NO3 at 1 ppm (and virtually no algae). Your typical LED array is very high in the bluish spectra...and so is your lighting. You could try reducing the actinic/blue spectra percentage a bit by gradually moving to 'warmer' spectra bulbs to see if that helps.
 
I think 'Saltyfilmfolks' hit the nail on the head with his comments about high percentage of blue light. One often sees yellow to green comments when LEDs are used and I've encountered this myself when a cream-yellow Acro from a MH/T5 system turned green in my LED one with no measurable PO4 and NO3 at 1 ppm (and virtually no algae). Your typical LED array is very high in the bluish spectra...and so is your lighting. You could try reducing the actinic/blue spectra percentage a bit by gradually moving to 'warmer' spectra bulbs to see if that helps.
I swapped out an actinic with a coral blue special (15000K) yesterday. The actinics definitely bring out the green in some coral. There seems to be two things going on here: The frequency of the actinic light seems to bring out the fluorescent greens in certain coral and I'm betting actually makes some coral (that are prone to it) physically turn more green.
It seems that some yellow corals are effected more than others. i.e my pink lemonade is as yellow as can be, while the pink floyd and pikachu are getting green at their bases.
 
I swapped out an actinic with a coral blue special (15000K) yesterday. The actinics definitely bring out the green in some coral. There seems to be two things going on here: The frequency of the actinic light seems to bring out the fluorescent greens in certain coral and I'm betting actually makes some coral (that are prone to it) physically turn more green.
It seems that some yellow corals are effected more than others. i.e my pink lemonade is as yellow as can be, while the pink floyd and pikachu are getting green at their bases.
Yup. Exactly.
How long is the photoperiod.
 
I swapped out an actinic with a coral blue special (15000K) yesterday. The actinics definitely bring out the green in some coral. There seems to be two things going on here: The frequency of the actinic light seems to bring out the fluorescent greens in certain coral and I'm betting actually makes some coral (that are prone to it) physically turn more green.
It seems that some yellow corals are effected more than others. i.e my pink lemonade is as yellow as can be, while the pink floyd and pikachu are getting green at their bases.

One plausible explanation for the 'yellow turning to green' corals is that the high percentage of blue/hyperviolet is stimulating the production of additional green flourescent pigments (GFPs), which allows the coral to emit the excess excitation energy as 'green'. This is a potential protection mechanism for the coral against an excess of these photosynthetically stimulating blue/hyperviolet wavelengths . When less of the blue/hyperviolet is present, the coral produces less GSP. What little GSP is produced is then blended with the coral's own whitish/pinkish tissue pigment to produce 'yellow' to our eyes (green + red = yellow). Since corals often have a blend of different fluorescent and non-fluorescent pigmentation, and not all have GFPs, this can explain why some corals turn green so easily and others retain their yellow coloration even though they are under the same lighting. Also of note is that when subjected to true 'blue' wavelengths (~470nm) or cyan (~495nm), some coral pigments emit as yellow!

The URL below is a great little chart, that you may already be familiar with, but it shows the 'excitation' spectra (from a light source) and the 'emission' spectra from the coral. Note that royal blue (~450nm) excitation can cause the coral to emit in shades of blue, cyan or green depending on the type of coral fluorescent pigmentation:

http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2012/10/aafeature_album/image014.jpg/image_full

It seems to me that in a population of different yellow Acropora kept under the same lighting conditions there may be some that stay yellow and some that easily turn green, all depending on the types of coral pigmention present. Finding that 'magic spectrum' where most, if not all, stay yellow may be quite the challenge.

Best of luck!
 
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My T5 bulbs come on at 1:30 and go off at 10:30pm (9hr). My Halides go on at 2:30 and off at 10:00pm (7.5 hr).
yea that's not overly long at at all.

One plausible explanation for the 'yellow turning to green' corals is that the high percentage of blue/hyperviolet is stimulating the production of additional green flourescent pigments (GFPs), which allows the coral to emit the excess excitation energy as 'green'. This is a potential protection mechanism for the coral against an excess of these photosynthetically stimulating blue/hyperviolet wavelengths . When less of the blue/hyperviolet is present, the coral produces less GSP. What little GSP is produced is then blended with the coral's own whitish/pinkish tissue pigment to produce 'yellow' to our eyes (green + red = yellow). Since corals often have a blend of different fluorescent and non-fluorescent pigmentation, and not all have GFPs, this can explain why some corals turn green so easily and others retain their yellow coloration even though they are under the same lighting. Also of note is that when subjected to true 'blue' wavelengths (~470nm) or cyan (~495nm), some coral pigments emit as yellow!

The URL below is a great little chart, that you may already be familiar with, but it shows the 'excitation' spectra (from a light source) and the 'emission' spectra from the coral. Note that royal blue (~450nm) excitation can cause the coral to emit in shades of blue, cyan or green depending on the type of coral fluorescent pigmentation:

http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2012/10/aafeature_album/image014.jpg/image_full

It seems to me that in a population of different yellow Acropora kept under the same lighting conditions there may be some that stay yellow and some that easily turn green, all depending on the types of coral pigmention present. Finding that 'magic spectrum' where most, if not all, stay yellow may be quite the challenge.

Best of luck!
And yes. this is how understand the process as well.
 
One plausible explanation for the 'yellow turning to green' corals is that the high percentage of blue/hyperviolet is stimulating the production of additional green flourescent pigments (GFPs), which allows the coral to emit the excess excitation energy as 'green'. This is a potential protection mechanism for the coral against an excess of these photosynthetically stimulating blue/hyperviolet wavelengths . When less of the blue/hyperviolet is present, the coral produces less GSP. What little GSP is produced is then blended with the coral's own whitish/pinkish tissue pigment to produce 'yellow' to our eyes (green + red = yellow). Since corals often have a blend of different fluorescent and non-fluorescent pigmentation, and not all have GFPs, this can explain why some corals turn green so easily and others retain their yellow coloration even though they are under the same lighting. Also of note is that when subjected to true 'blue' wavelengths (~470nm) or cyan (~495nm), some coral pigments emit as yellow!

The URL below is a great little chart, that you may already be familiar with, but it shows the 'excitation' spectra (from a light source) and the 'emission' spectra from the coral. Note that royal blue (~450nm) excitation can cause the coral to emit in shades of blue, cyan or green depending on the type of coral fluorescent pigmentation:

http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2012/10/aafeature_album/image014.jpg/image_full

It seems to me that in a population of different yellow Acropora kept under the same lighting conditions there may be some that stay yellow and some that easily turn green, all depending on the types of coral pigmention present. Finding that 'magic spectrum' where most, if not all, stay yellow may be quite the challenge.

Best of luck!
Thanks for the input. That makes perfect sense.
 
Hello ,how is your experience since I have same problem yellow and pink corals turn green, maybe it is my radion g5? But it would be difficult to diminish the blue ,maybe it is also the UV?
 

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