Yellow Tang has brown spots?

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Hi, I have this yellow tang in QT with copper for the past two days. I noticed a brown spot that he has on both sides. It doesn't look like black ich( at least from what I see on google pictures). It's more like a dirty patch on its skin. Is it some sort of bacteial infection?
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Might be stress coloration from being in the QT. Just to be sure, let's get the rest of the #reefsquad in here and see what else they can come up with.
 
I had the exact thing on my tang a month after getting the fish. Put it in QT with hypo-salinity (1.012) and fed Selcon soaked Nori. Fish recovered completely in 3 weeks.
 
I had the exact thing on my tang a month after getting the fish. Put it in QT with hypo-salinity (1.012) and fed Selcon soaked Nori. Fish recovered completely in 3 weeks.
I am glad your tang recovered! Mine is already in QT with copper. The salinty is at 1.022
 
What's the QT like in general? Size, layout, etc.

Are you treating with copper because you thought it was a good idea?

Or are you treating with copper because of some signs that the fish demonstrated? (Be as specific as you can.)

Copper stress is one maybe....(one good reason not to subject fish to it unless needed.)
FA165/FA165: Use of Copper in Marine Aquaculture and Aquarium ...

Copper Toxicity to Non-Targeted Organisms
Animal Considerations
Some species of fish are highly sensitive to copper and will die even at concentrations below therapeutic levels (i.e., less than 0.15 mg/L free copper). Other considerations that will affect survival include acclimation period (exposing fish to slowly increasing concentrations of free copper over the course of several days until the treatment target concentration is reached), as well as age or life stage of the fish. In one study, larvae acclimated to copper exposure more quickly than juvenile and adult fish and had better survival (Sellin et al. 2005). In some fish species, younger fish are more resistant to copper toxicity than older fish; in others, the reverse is true (Howarth and Sprague 1978; Pickering and Lazorchak 1995; Furata et al. 2008). Copper will damage a number of organs and systems, including the gills, liver, kidney, immune system, and nervous system (Cardeilhac and Whitaker 1988). Gills appear to be the most affected organ during acute toxicity, and will become blunt and thickened and lose ability to regulate body fluid ion concentrations. Copper also suppresses immune system function, and can affect the lateral line of fish. Prolonged copper exposure also may result in reduced growth (Wong et al. 1999). During toxicity, in addition to general signs of distress (e.g., increased respiration), fish may display darkening and behavioral abnormalities: lethargy, incoordination, problems with posture and balance, and, eventually, death (Cardeilhac and Whitaker 1988).

Most invertebrates are highly sensitive to copper and will not survive a copper treatment. If systems with invertebrates are to be treated, the invertebrates should be moved and not returned until Cu2+ concentrations are 0.01 mg/L or less, but ideally zero (Cardeilhac and Whitaker 1988). Copper levels should be monitored for some time after treatment, because copper bound to substrate (e.g., coral, shells, decorations) may be released if pH drops or other changes in water quality parameters occur (see Environmental Factors below).

More likely (IME) it's a bruise from handling (before or after you got him).

If it's bad you won't be able to help. If it's not bad, it'll clear up without help.
 
What's the QT like in general? Size, layout, etc.

Are you treating with copper because you thought it was a good idea?

Or are you treating with copper because of some signs that the fish demonstrated? (Be as specific as you can.)

Copper stress is one maybe....(one good reason not to subject fish to it unless needed.)
FA165/FA165: Use of Copper in Marine Aquaculture and Aquarium ...



More likely (IME) it's a bruise from handling (before or after you got him).

If it's bad you won't be able to help. If it's not bad, it'll clear up without help.

The QT is a 15 gallon rubbermaid( I read many use one for a cheap QT). I treated with copper because the LFS recommended, because tangs are likely to get ich and other parasites. The LFS also runs copper in their fish only systems(the tang I got was in there). The QT has a sponge filter, HOB filter and a heater. There is PVC for hiding and is eating a little bit of nori. I tested the water before adding him and also had the LFS tested. Levels were good(pH 8.2, Nitartes .2ppm, Ammonia 0 and zero nitrites). QT was cycled with my tank water, the tank has been running for 7 months now. His behavior is normal, I know the tank is extremly small for him, when QT is over he will go in a 90 gallon system.
The yellow tang at the LFS was with other yellow tangs of similar size, no signs of ich and all were eating nori.
 
I am glad your tang recovered! Mine is already in QT with copper. The salinty is at 1.022
Hey. Have had this too on my tang several times... often after trying out chemiclean or other additives to the water. Could be the copper treatment. Will pass if he’s eating. Mine still alive after 5 yrs
 
Sorry forgot. Would rather recommend hypo salinity than copper
 
Yeah I would ditch the copper and just run salinity at about 1.012 and feed selcon soaked nori.

When I prematurely threw a powder blue tang in my tank he was loaded with ich two days later and spread it to one of my purple tangs. Instead of attempting to catch them all and running a QT, I just left everything as is and made sure there was always a sheet of nori I had soaked a day prior in Selcon. After a few weeks, all my fish are clear of anything and quite fat. I rather have them fight it off naturally than the added stress with chemicals.
 
Nori is a seaweed sheets, you can find them and any LFS. Selcon is a vitamin supplement you would soak the nori in before feeding. I have provided a link.
https://www.bulkreefsupply.com/selc...MI96qE0N-w2wIVAwxpCh3KzgekEAYYASABEgLVafD_BwE

BRS also sales Nori

PS. Your not an idiot. Unless you have dealt with these types of fish it is normal to have not known about it. In my experience most LFS don't carry it. I had to order it online.
 
Thank you. I have had my tank running since last December. Had no or very little problems up to press. How often would you put selcon in your tank?
 
Every day, I drop/spray the selcon on the Nori an hour or two before i put the Nori in my tank so it sticks to the seaweed.

Feed two cubes and two 3"x6" sheets of nori a day
 
Thank you so much. Have ordered some from the link you sent me.
 
I know that this is an old thread - but my yellow tang is showing the exact same spots in the QT while running copper. Seems like there are a few common links here. I'm wondering how your tang turned out - and how you ended up treating him.
 
My tangs seem to get similar spots from time to time, looks almost like a brown birthmark. I've also seen similar spots on my clowns, copperband butterfly, etc, but the mystery spots seem to come and go after a few days. Any updates on what this might be? None of my fish have died so far, so whatever it is, the fish seem to fight it off after a few days.
 

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