Hey guys so I got a yellow tang one week ago today well he just started scratching and showing very minimal white spots I do have a 29 gallon qt although me being young and impatient I decided to throw him right into the dt, not smart. After reading some of humblefish’s forums I’ve decided to take all of my fish out and qt them using cupramine I have a few concerns my biggest one being I have 2 small clownfish 2 small scooter blenny’s one coral beauty angle fish and one small yellow tang are these 6 fish going to be too much for my 29 gallon qt? I plan on taking all fish out April 16th and adding them to qt thanks in advance and any tips on qt would be great as this is my first time using cupramine
Yellow tang Ich Help needed!
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deedubz
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The tang and angel might be iffy together in a 29g. My concern for the dragonets is a-they don't do well in copper and b-youre going to have a VERY hard time sustaining them without a refugium/pods in qt.
HotRocks
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You are doing the right thing. Make sure you keep your DT fallow for 76 days as well. I am not sure about blenny's as I don't have experience with them. Your other fish should tolerate the copper ok. 6 fish in the 29g, maybe not the most ideal situation, but it should be ok if you can move some media from your DT over. Just keep the water clean, and stay ahead of the game one WCs. You need an established biofilter to combat ammonia.
Other tips.
Get ammonia badge.
Oxygen is key. Almost all meds consume oxygen and supress appetite.
Add Airstone.
Make sure your powerhead or wavemaker is aimed upward and breaking the surface to generate additional oxygen.
Add garlic guard to food to help entice eating.
Big G
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In you HOB filter, it would be great if you soaked your filter sponge in BioSpira or Dr. Tim's at least overnight in a bowl. Even better if you could add a bag of either Fluval BioMax or Seachem Matrix, also soaked in BioSpira/Dr. Tim's. When done soaking, pour the remaining liquid into the tank.
So you have Seachem's Cupramine copper. Do you have Seachem's Copper Test kit? You also need a Seachem Ammonia Alert Badge. You can also use Seachem's Ammonia Test Kit to test for "Free Ammonia" that's the one that hurts fish.
So you have Seachem's Cupramine copper. Do you have Seachem's Copper Test kit? You also need a Seachem Ammonia Alert Badge. You can also use Seachem's Ammonia Test Kit to test for "Free Ammonia" that's the one that hurts fish.
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Most mandarins have a thick slime coat are pretty resistant so idk if u have to quarantine that guy unless he shows signs of ick or marine velvet. The other fish should be fine as long as it's temporary. Long term like 4 months could prove problematic if the tang is larger then the other fish and the angel is established. But defintely quarantine those fish.
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I do not have any pics now lights are out and the white spots are very minimal like less then 10 and very hard to see not even sure we’d be able to see it in a photo but a lot of scratching which makes me bealive it is ich or velvet probably ich since he’s been scratching for about 2-3 days and white spots aren’t taking over also he’s the only fish showing any signs so far and as far as the tang and the anglefish they are best friends swim and eat togethor all day long even hide togethor! As far as the blennys the have been eating frozen food very well
deedubz
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If you're willing to setup an additional qt for the scooters you could..
Take a few pieces of LR from dt and buy some pods. My scooter used to eat EVERYTHING but you'd still want to have pods available for them.
After the tank has been fallow 76 days you can put the tang, angel and clowns back in dt. You'd then want to sterilize that QT tank/equipment and let it dry a few days. Then you can do ttm on the scooter blennies so that they're also ich free. I'm just throwing the idea out. I feel this would be your safest bet for them
Take a few pieces of LR from dt and buy some pods. My scooter used to eat EVERYTHING but you'd still want to have pods available for them.
After the tank has been fallow 76 days you can put the tang, angel and clowns back in dt. You'd then want to sterilize that QT tank/equipment and let it dry a few days. Then you can do ttm on the scooter blennies so that they're also ich free. I'm just throwing the idea out. I feel this would be your safest bet for them
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Yeah I honestly don’t have room for another qt for them being that we already have 2 dt’s and one qt in the house this isn’t me being cheap in anyway we honestly just don’t have the room my dad has a small 32g reef I could possibly put them in although I don’t feel as if this is smart even though they do have a very thick slime coat
deedubz
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The problem is if they aren't removed there's no point in going fallow. They'd still be carriers and the treated fish would return to an ich environment. The dragonets will still have to be removed. I don't think they handle copper well. I'm not sure about CP, but most hobbyists don't have real access to it. I think the only real option is setting up a separate tank for them and performing ttm towards the end of the DT fallow period
USMC 4 LIFE
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As per Melys copper chart, the mandarins should not be exposed to copper
deedubz
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Very trueYou could do the TTM for the dragonets in a couple of food 5 gal grade buckets
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Correct me if I’m wrong, but don’t all copper test kits give false positive readings with the presence of copper in the water? Hence the reason for the ammonia alert badge which is the only one that doesn’t.
deedubz
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Most do. The exception is actually the seachem ammonia kit with seachem cupramine. The alert badge is also relatively accurate with the various coppers
HotRocks
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The seachem ammonia test kit does work in the presence of copper. The badge is cheaper and much easier. It's always monitoring, instead of taking the time to test.
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Is it something I should be very concerned about now or can I wait it out for a little bit here is a few pictures of him no dots but still flashing every once in a while eating very well just picked up some purple and green Nori here are a few pictures is there anything else that could cause flashing?
Big G
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Could be flukes. A freshwater dip would confirm if they are present.
Here's a link to Meredith's posting and video on how to do a good freshwater dip. https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/video-how-to-do-a-freshwater-dip.286639/#post-3487082
Here's a link to Meredith's posting and video on how to do a good freshwater dip. https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/video-how-to-do-a-freshwater-dip.286639/#post-3487082
HotRocks
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+1 to a FW dip. If it's flukes you can treat the fish in DT
