Yellow Tangs - less and less available

[Nokiaec11]

And yes, there are breeders in the states, and they sale to some poplar vendors, and those vendors sale to you....I the past 1yr-2yrs How many of you have read or were told that your Yellow Tang specifically came from Hawaii, or did you read "That Yellow Tangs originate from Hawaii", which is true, but they come from other places to, and are heavily breed for profit.

 

[Nokiaec11]

Come on Nokiaec11. You are wrong. Just admit it and move on. Keep on trying to get the last word when you are obviously wrong just cause you to loose all credibility.
It is likely not easy to raise Yellow Tang, but doable. Cost still high and tank raise Yellow Tang is still a bit more expensive than wild caught. No one, at this time, will scam other people by selling tank raise Yellow Tang as wild caught.

Research before you respond...just you don't about it, don't assume something is not true, look below and check for yourself:

 

[Gareth elliott]

https://dlnr.hawaii.gov/dar/files/2018/12/aquarium_permit_faq_rev6.pdf

An faq released by the Hawaii state government. This has not completely stopped the collection of fish for trade, except west coast of hawaii as they complete their assessment and determine how to issue permits that meet HEPA conditions. Having seen a biota captive bred tang and its price recently . If they sold as wild, they would be selling well below its market value, as captive bred tangs and angelfish atm are more expensive than their wild caught siblings. These are not like clown fish or seahorses where a hobbyist with reasonable expenses, knowledge and attention to detail can raise from fry to fish.

 

[Nokiaec11]

Yeah, this hobby can be a mess if you are one who puts to much intonwhere a fiah came from...Truth be told unless you personally gather a coral or fish yourself you have no idea where is came from, and that goes for the LFS's all over...It is highly possible to buy a Yellow Tang that actually came out of Hawaiian waters, the hobby is so diluted with Yellow Tangs from all over it would be difficult to determine actual origin of the fish, not the species...Live Aquaria list their Yellow Tangs origin, and currently no Hawaii Yellow Tangs

 

[jda]

...or there are 600-1000 available each week from O'ahu collected in Hawaii. If you really live there, then you don't know much about what is going on. They went up about $2 wholesale when the collection rules changes, but they have ALWAYS been available in fine numbers. Who knows what might happen in the future.

You can catch Yellows in Hawaii, just need to use larger nets. Issue is still ongoing though...
https://www.hawaiipublicradio.org/post/bill-ban-aquarium-fishing-heard-senate-committee

 

[OrionN]

Research before you respond...just you don't about it, don't assume something is not true, look below and check for yourself:
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(I removed the pictures)
Just because a not too reputable dealer put it on the web on their web site trying to justify higher price for their yellow tang, you assumed it is true.

 

[Nokiaec11]

...or there are 600-1000 available each week from O'ahu collected in Hawaii. If you really live there, then you don't know much about what is going on. They went up about $2 wholesale when the collection rules changes, but they have ALWAYS been available in fine numbers. Who knows what might happen in the future.

You can catch Yellows in Hawaii, just need to use larger nets. Issue is still ongoing though...
https://www.hawaiipublicradio.org/post/bill-ban-aquarium-fishing-heard-senate-committee

I am really glad to that this is a passionate topic qithin the trade:
But your link just states its still out for debate...it does not show that there was a resolution reached.

Here is the staus of SB931..it public info:

 

[jda]

It is hard to walk back being wrong and this is not working...just admit it or drop out. Most people just drop out and let the more informed people keep contributing.

Hawaii put a ban on collecting them....If you find one, the price will be higher than before, and eventually all of naturals will be replaced with all tank breed and raised.

 

[alton]

If you have ordered recently please resubmit orders now. Sorry very busy with legislation! Shut down bill SB 931 is still alive.

Sold all old bandit angels, but just in yesterday 8 bandits after diving gail force winds and 12 foot seas with 15 foot vis at a sharky 230 feet deep. Crazy!

Now in stock 3 each 4 inch bandtis and 3 pairs starting at 5 inches to 8 inches, 6 flame wrasse super males and 20 females still in stock, two smaller goldenback males 9-10 inches. Also in stock tomorrow; flame angles, barttlets anthias, and goldfake angels etc. when CXI fish arrives. Yellow tangs sold out but going tonight for more as weather breaking over next 7 days, Yeah!

Still in stock Male and female cross hatch with 1 male 7 inches, Male christmas wrasse, Super male and super female flame wrasse. Unicorn tangs big only by law, Morish idols now smaller and many in stock. Orange shoudlers, sailfin and dussimeri tangs in stock. 2 Goldenback now only 350 each sale and smaller in stock.

Still In sock Hawaiian fish 35 moorish idols, 6 sailfin tangs, flame wrasse females with super males, golden back trigger, cross hatch triggers, japanese squirrel small, blue spotted gourper very pretty fish, potters angels, naso tangs reg and streamers lg more tonight, unicorn tangs, dussimeri tangs, racoons, aurgia butterflies , lineolatus butterfly, raspberry cucumbers, cross hatch triggers small females and large male and females, sailfin tangs, feather dusters, fancy purple stars small and large, pink knobby stars, Hawaiian peppermint shrimps, 300 Zebra hermits, halloween hermits, and many others see inventory use for ordering this week. 3-11-19 ATTACHED.

Thanks, RT Distributors

The bad weather is keeping him from collecting yellow tangs, once the bad weather subsides RT will be collecting once again. I would still like to know how they catch wrasses with a two inch net?

 

[Nokiaec11]

It is hard to walk back being wrong and this is not working...just admit it or drop out. Most people just drop out and let the more informed people keep contributing.

Can you read?...lookup Hawaiian bill 931...what do you think everyone is referring to.

 

[jda]

IT HAS NOT PASSED. PEOPLE ARE STILL COLLECTING FISH FROM HAWAII RIGHT NOW, INCLUDING YELLOW TANGS. RIGHT NOW.

THERE IS NO BAN.

LET ME SAY IT AGAIN: THERE IS NO BAN.

...AND AGAIN: THERE IS NO BAN.

YOU WERE WRONG. YOU STILL ARE. EVEN IF A COMPLETE BAN COMES ONE DAY, YOU WILL STILL BE WRONG ABOUT THIS AT THIS MOMENT.

 

[OrionN]

Can you read?...lookup Hawaiian bill 931...what do you think everyone is referring to.

;Dead;Dead

IT HAS NOT PASSED. PEOPLE ARE STILL COLLECTING FISH FROM HAWAII RIGHT NOW, INCLUDING YELLOW TANGS. RIGHT NOW.

THERE IS NO BAN.

LET ME SAY IT AGAIN: THERE IS NO BAN.

...AND AGAIN: THERE IS NO BAN.

YOU WERE WRONG. YOU STILL ARE. EVEN IF A COMPLETE BAN COMES ONE DAY, YOU WILL STILL BE WRONG ABOUT THIS AT THIS MOMENT.

 

[OrionN]

I am finish answering to Norkiaec11's posts since it is impossible to have intelligent discussing with him.

 

[Nokiaec11]

No the bill has not passed, but the harvesting has been halted since 2017...the bill will make it permanent or make the courts lift the ban. ThatPetPlace.com is reputable vendor for aquarium fish, and even they will tell you there is a ban for collecting Hawaii aquarium fish...find 1 palce online that will tell that Yellow Tangs they have in stock come from Hawaii...not Joe Blow who has a local LFS, those guys just want a $buck, in actuality most of them are asvknowledgable as internet makes them.

 

[jda]

I am out too. This feels too Trolly and I have been feeding it way too much... There is no way that somebody is actually this dumb.

 

[mattzang]

aren't there a bunch of fish that are endemic to hawaii? like achilles tangs, potters angels, flame wrasses? and a bunch of them are in stock

in fact the potters angel is in stock at thatpetplace.com..

https://www.thatpetplace.com/Centropyge-potteri-potters-angel-264114

idk how accessible the johnston atoll is or how much they collect there

 

[Nokiaec11]

aren't there a bunch of fish that are endemic to hawaii? like achilles tangs, potters angels, flame wrasses? and a bunch of them are in stock

in fact the potters angel is in stock at thatpetplace.com..

https://www.thatpetplace.com/Centropyge-potteri-potters-angel-264114

idk how accessible the johnston atoll is or how much they collect there

Only speaking of the Yellow Tang discussion...now look that up on the same site and read all of the details

 

[enb141]

I've seen the prices of yellow tangs and wow now they cost $85 at live aquaria, wow, who was gonna say it, the "dory" tang is cheaper now days than the yellow tang?

 

[Dr. Reef Verified Sponsor]

Catching restrictions in Hawaii and no flights due to covit is making the prices go higher.

We sell them Quarantined for $99.99 and most other places are also in general price range. Hippo tangs go for 119.99 with us.

But I expect the prices to stay near that range even if things go back to normal.
Wholesalers are going to try to hold the price to make up the loss of income over this year.

 

[mattzang]

on the plus side, looks like that nokiaec11 guy stopped posting after this thread