yellow tangs pricing

[ca1ore]

What about this. If what I say is true and the hobby may shrink because less people will enter because of fish prices and if some leave because of the price of fish may have got to rich for them.
Will the demand on corals drop and the prices of coral come down?

Honestly I think this hurts the whole hobby including Forums, coral vendors, retailers, collectors, distributors, equipment manufacturers and the list goes on.

I think allot in the hobby also feel like well they will just come from elsewhere. Those places already have limits to.
Used to be bans happened one place a new place opened so people shrugged stuff off but now we are out of new places. Just like with live rock.

I think we hit the peak of the hobby now. Less diversity of fish and corals coming in some will lose interest.
Fish will have more diseases making it hard for some.

Well, lot to digest there. I think I largely agree with all of it.

Coral prices are interesting. If demand declines then prices should also. Except, how many hobbies-turned-businesses would remain interested of they could only get $25 for a frag rather than $100 (numbers just illustration)? May well be that we'd lose a lot of supply also. I've long felt that its just a matter of time before wild collected corals become verboten. Then, we rely on the hobbyists to propagate supply. Not as problematic as the fish thing because coral easily propagate in reef tanks .... well, mostly easily.

I find myself wondering if a smaller addressable market is necessarily a bad thing. Is discouraging the casual reefer that keeps a tank for a year, kills a bunch of fish and coral, then moves on a problem. Yet, smaller addressable markets has a knock-on affect. Equipment manufacturers (the really innovative ones, that is) sell less stuff, have less $$ for innovation and more go belly up. I know you've been around for a while, as have I, but I have no desire to go back to the days when a company like Tunze (as great as they are) was about the only skimmer game in town.

 

[shred5]

Well, lot to digest there. I think I largely agree with all of it.

Coral prices are interesting. If demand declines then prices should also. Except, how many hobbies-turned-businesses would remain interested of they could only get $25 for a frag rather than $100 (numbers just illustration)? May well be that we'd lose a lot of supply also. I've long felt that its just a matter of time before wild collected corals become verboten. Then, we rely on the hobbyists to propagate supply. Not as problematic as the fish thing because coral easily propagate in reef tanks .... well, mostly easily.

I find myself wondering if a smaller addressable market is necessarily a bad thing. Is discouraging the casual reefer that keeps a tank for a year, kills a bunch of fish and coral, then moves on a problem. Yet, smaller addressable markets has a knock-on affect. Equipment manufacturers (the really innovative ones, that is) sell less stuff, have less $$ for innovation and more go belly up. I know you've been around for a while, as have I, but I have no desire to go back to the days when a company like Tunze (as great as they are) was about the only skimmer game in town.

Honestly I agree 100 percent with everything you posted. This is a great post if not the best post I have read in a long time.

I knew you would bring up less coral vendors . What happens when no new corals come from the wild and all these collector corals now are the staple. With no new corals will people get bored. Will all those that call themselves collectors leave?
Honestly though I do not get why there is not more trading with the prices for corals. Trading corals used to be huge back in the day and I think it was getting to the point of hurting some retailers.
I miss when the hobby was smaller and I knew most everybody.
Will higher prices make people take better care of their animals? Good point.
Could it become a hobby for the rich so they do not care anyway.
Will the hobby become more about biology?
So many questions and only thing I know is the hobby is going to change going forward.
I firmly believe it will get smaller now.

 

[dantimdad]

What about this. If what I say is true and the hobby may shrink because less people will enter because of fish prices and if some leave because of the price of fish may have got to rich for them.
Will the demand on corals drop and the prices of coral come down?

Honestly I think this hurts the whole hobby including Forums, coral vendors, retailers, collectors, distributors, equipment manufacturers and the list goes on.

I think allot in the hobby also feel like well they will just come from elsewhere. Those places already have limits to.
Used to be bans happened one place a new place opened so people shrugged stuff off but now we are out of new places. Just like with live rock.

I think we hit the peak of the hobby now. Less diversity of fish and corals coming in some will lose interest.
Fish will have more diseases making it hard for some.

I agree with this for the most part.

I noticed when I had my store less variety than I had ever seen. I am STILL trying to get some more springeri damsels after a year of trying for my home tank.

 

[wenliu51]

Oops, i literally just posted another thread of this. And didn't catch this one! Saw two at my LFS for $400/each

 

[Tamberav]

My LFS got in maybe 8 Kole Tangs today. $100 each, not that bad for a fish that won't be available.

 

[jtf74]

I just sold my 4" yellow tang a couple weeks ago for $35 because it wouldn't play nice with my copperband. Really miss it, but now wondering if they will ever be affordable again if I wanted to try a smaller one.

 

[Squidward]

Sad for a fish so common and unexciting lol

 

[CanuckReefer]

I certainly think they Yellow tangs, and Purple Tangs are the most beautiful and flashy of the Zebrasoma. I would prefer these two over any of the other of the Zebrosoma in my tank.
As of this week, this is the most expensive fish in my tank.
Anybody with clear pictures of tank bred Yellow tangs? I want to see how they compair with my wild caught Yellow tang that I have. I got this guy from the time his body without the tail was the size of a quarter.

That's a beauty @OrionN nice colouration, and nice and fat. Well done. Roughly how old and what size tank? This is mine, 16 years and in a 90 gallon entire time. He is boss.

 

[Jenuvio]

Sell high... before the party ends.

 

[tehmadreefer]

 

[jose hernandez]

there’s always gonna be someone who overpays that’s just it so long as that happens prices are gonna be what they are no matter what

 

[tehmadreefer]

there’s always gonna be someone who overpays that’s just it so long as that happens prices are gonna be what they are no matter what

Exactly, just like the ones that pay $50 for a half cup of cheato... there always some idiot and lately plenty of them

 

[fluked]

The only online site in australia that has yellow tangs in stock at the moment is listing them for $1300

 

[xxkenny90xx]

Exactly, just like the ones that pay $50 for a half cup of cheato... there always some idiot and lately plenty of them

Preach it!

@shred5 @ca1ore you guys are bringing me down man

 

[vetteguy53081]

Last week, yellows were $69.99
As of today, there are None available

here is current store pricing in my region :

BRISTLETOOTH - TWO SPOT	TANG	$69.99
CLOWN LINEATUS	TANG	$89.99
GEM	TANG	$599.99
HEPATUS	TANG	49.99/$69
NASO	TANG	$89.99
ORANGE SHOULDER	TANG	$49.99
POWDER BROWN	TANG	$39.99
PURPLE-(RED SEA)	TANG	$169.99
SAILFIN	TANG	$39.99
SAILFIN DESJARDINI	TANG	$99.99
UNICORN	TANG	$89.99
WHITE TAIL BRISTLETOOTH	TANG	$169.99

 

[jose hernandez]

i bet well see alot of yellow tangs up for sale im not sellin mines

 

[Tamberav]

Last week, yellows were $69.99
As of today, there are None available

here is current store pricing in my region :

BRISTLETOOTH - TWO SPOT	TANG	$69.99
CLOWN LINEATUS	TANG	$89.99
GEM	TANG	$599.99
HEPATUS	TANG	49.99/$69
NASO	TANG	$89.99
ORANGE SHOULDER	TANG	$49.99
POWDER BROWN	TANG	$39.99
PURPLE-(RED SEA)	TANG	$169.99
SAILFIN	TANG	$39.99
SAILFIN DESJARDINI	TANG	$99.99
UNICORN	TANG	$89.99
WHITE TAIL BRISTLETOOTH	TANG	$169.99

As of today... also Kole: 99.99

Which should technically be more rare than yellow since no captive bred option.


Oh and a Lavender at 49.99

 

[shred5]

Last week, yellows were $69.99
As of today, there are None available

here is current store pricing in my region :

BRISTLETOOTH - TWO SPOT	TANG	$69.99
CLOWN LINEATUS	TANG	$89.99
GEM	TANG	$599.99
HEPATUS	TANG	49.99/$69
NASO	TANG	$89.99
ORANGE SHOULDER	TANG	$49.99
POWDER BROWN	TANG	$39.99
PURPLE-(RED SEA)	TANG	$169.99
SAILFIN	TANG	$39.99
SAILFIN DESJARDINI	TANG	$99.99
UNICORN	TANG	$89.99
WHITE TAIL BRISTLETOOTH	TANG	$169.99

What store?

 

[CanuckReefer]

Last week, yellows were $69.99
As of today, there are None available

here is current store pricing in my region :

BRISTLETOOTH - TWO SPOT	TANG	$69.99
CLOWN LINEATUS	TANG	$89.99
GEM	TANG	$599.99
HEPATUS	TANG	49.99/$69
NASO	TANG	$89.99
ORANGE SHOULDER	TANG	$49.99
POWDER BROWN	TANG	$39.99
PURPLE-(RED SEA)	TANG	$169.99
SAILFIN	TANG	$39.99
SAILFIN DESJARDINI	TANG	$99.99
UNICORN	TANG	$89.99
WHITE TAIL BRISTLETOOTH	TANG	$169.99

An Orange Shoulder at 49.99 is a value imo....beautiful fish, that is a bit of a challenge but nothing over the top from what I understand....

 

[BBoley24]

Wow i really hope people dont try to take advantage of Hawaii ban and start gouging prices of Yellow tangs !!! that would be a shame!!!

I have 3. $250 ea