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I picked up both of these at one of my lfs today bc they looked kinda like purple hornets and jokers....are they?

The "hornets" are actually kinda a red/purple but anyways

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Idk that was my 2nd guess, doesnt either ppe or jokers have a green mouth?
 
Very nice.

Ive never seen 1,but 2 looks like a Joker Paly,I do not belive they get a green mouth.
 
Ijust looked closely at my "hornets" and they do have alternating skirts!

But they arent purple like my purple hornets, and they def. arent red or blue..so now what
 
I'm not really seeing much any color in the first ones, though it looks like there could be some alternating going on (not doubting you, just hard for me to see in the pics.) Maybe call them brown hornets if they do alternate?
 
They do alternate, but they are like a burgundy color, so they arent the most vivid of the hornets.....
 
Just because something has a ring does not make it a hornet. It could be maybe it needs to color up but to call it a hornet right now is a little misleading
 
Also I know ive seen quite a few of purple hornet wild colonys and the ones ive seen has always came in on rock like that for some reason. In your pic theres one polyp on the lower right that looks to have green in it. Is that right or is just a glare or something?
 
i know the hornet id saying but whenever a polyp has a ring, alternating skirts and a white mouth how is it not a hornet?

that polyp is green, i think it got hit and the color is spreading temporarily,like u see in alot of stressed polpys

I forgot to mention these polyps are tiny,like half the size of my purple hornets, but that could be from stress 2
 
I would just place them where they seem happy and see if they color up some. Ive seen a few colonies of purple hornets come in completely brown with no ring or anything and they've colored up just takes some time.
 
Just because something has a ring does not make it a hornet. It could be maybe it needs to color up but to call it a hornet right now is a little misleading

The main identifying of a hornet is typically the alternating skirt followed by a ring of some form. A thin band is not required to fit the name hornet, though some subtypes do meet that criteria where others have a thicker band as opposed to a ring.
 
well they seem pretty happy right now, so ill just leave them alone
 
well they seem pretty happy right now, so ill just leave them alone

Will you put up some more pics as time goes by? I'm really curious to see how they continue to color. Plus the tiny polyps are always so interesting to me for some reason.
 
Yeah just leave them be. Because those look like a wild colony and wild hornets = melters so leave them be by all means lol
 
They beat y purple hornets in brightness under leds tho, these new ones are extremly bright to be so small!

Hope they dont melt,i hate when that happens
 
I'm gonna go out on a limb here - so don't take it for gospel. My theory would be that you've two wild Hawaiian colonies; Copper or Red Rings -n- PHE. The center ring of PHE will disappear when they are kept under very bright light, and the copper or red rings look similar to hornets, in that they have a ring and some indication of alternating colors in the skirts, but the skirts never really color up to match the center ring. Again, just taking a shot in the dark . . .
 

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