I find it most disturbing that such a potentially Deadly form of life is freely sold and unregulated in the world. i have been reading and talking about these for nearly two and a half months with many people and LFShops without anyone mentioning this nice little fact. i have on many times played squished and prodded these in my tank.
Zoa poison
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IMO Its overrated. You probably have a better chance falling out of bed killing yourself then dying from a Paly or Zoa. I mean I don't recommend eating some polyps but I also don't recommend jumping out of bed and land on your head.
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Palythoa toxin has been found to be one of the most deadly toxins in the animal kingdom, but the extremely potent zoanthids are not usually available to hobbyists. That being said, protopalys of all types (zoanthids that slime) can present a problem if the slime is taken into an open wound. Especially if the person exibits an alergy to the toxin.
Just take precautions when handleing zoanthids of all types. Use rubber gloves esp. when fragging.
And that being said, you should also take precautions when placing your hand in a tank with lionfish, touching anemones and bubble corals (some pple are suseptable to inflamation and other symtoms with various corals), don't handle rattlesnakes, pet stray dogs, drive while intoxicated, eat chicken that has not been handled/cooked properly, breath the air in large cities, eat potato chips, smoke cigs, talk on the phone or be on the PC during lightening storms just to name a few of the dangers that man faces in his daily adventures while living on this planet.
Just take precautions when handleing zoanthids of all types. Use rubber gloves esp. when fragging.
And that being said, you should also take precautions when placing your hand in a tank with lionfish, touching anemones and bubble corals (some pple are suseptable to inflamation and other symtoms with various corals), don't handle rattlesnakes, pet stray dogs, drive while intoxicated, eat chicken that has not been handled/cooked properly, breath the air in large cities, eat potato chips, smoke cigs, talk on the phone or be on the PC during lightening storms just to name a few of the dangers that man faces in his daily adventures while living on this planet.
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Before I started reading forums I knew nothing about zoas or paly toxin. Therefore, I have cut and handled palys and zoas for years without gloves and never gave it any thought. After thousands and thousands of frags being cut I have never had a reaction from them. My finger tips dont have much feeling but I dont know if I can dirrectly connect that to any type of toxins.
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it's just all part of the hobby.... yeh, yeh, yeh......
bungie jumping? psshhh.... skydiving? get outta here! you want danger? you want to live on the edge? get yourself a reef tank. that's what all the kool kids are doin
bungie jumping? psshhh.... skydiving? get outta here! you want danger? you want to live on the edge? get yourself a reef tank. that's what all the kool kids are doin
Haha Yeah def overrated. I have fragged Zoanthids a million times and never got any kind of reaction. But i also don't frag when i have a cut.
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The palys with the serious toxins are usually not found in the hobby, at least in the USA from what I understand. Rare to get hold of one that can cause serious damage. Kind of like playing with boas and rattlesnakes.
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It is actually a shame that we think because we frag lots of zoas that they are harmless. Mos that we encounter are probably just that. Many octopus are harmless, but try grabbing a blue ring.
Palytoxin is pretty bad stuff, but my problem with the scare is that if it were as easily accessible and in the volumes the alarmists like to make you think it is, I'd expect a large number of deaths from hobbyists who frag lots of zoas. Soft corals have some level of palytoxin (and other toxins), so it's in our tanks, but at such low levels that using common sense when handling will prevent most, if not all potential issues.
softiegirl
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I guess like in anything you do in life, you should know what you're getting into by being well informed. Do you go out in the woods and eat red berries?
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Spiderwoman
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I'd be more worried about so many other things that are available for sale in the world than banning zoa's and paly's
I guess like in anything you do in life, you should know what you're getting into by being well informed. Do you go out in the woods and eat red berries?
Yep i def do my research. But a lot of people just don't do that.
