Zoo issues

Shtiff1 · Sep 28, 2013

Can someone please help with my zoas.
The ones on the left, I think they are dragons eyes. Seem to be receding. As the ones on the right, which i think are birds eyes, are growing like crazy all over the rock. Why would one not be doing good and the other flourish?

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calvo15290 · Sep 28, 2013

Eagle eyes* and there fine they'll mix I have a colony and they go great together

Bubbles_B · Sep 28, 2013

what are your parameters? And are you dosing anything?

Shtiff1 · Sep 28, 2013

calvo15290 said:
Eagle eyes* and there fine they'll mix I have a colony and they go great together

Are the others "dragons eyes"? And why are they not doing add good as the eagle eyes?

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Shtiff1 · Sep 28, 2013

Bubbles_B said:
what are your parameters? And are you dosing anything?

Salt 1.026
Ph 8.3
Alk 10
Cal 430
Mag 1380
Amm 0
Phosphate .36
Nitrite 0
Nitrate 7

Only dosing Alk 5ml/day,cal 10ml/day.I haven't been doing mag because it has been high and i am letting it come down. That's it.

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calvo15290 · Sep 28, 2013

Yes they are and some zoas grow slower like I have a magian and it has one new Polyp after a month

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bknapp · Sep 28, 2013

Shtiff1 said:
Salt 1.026
Ph 8.3
Alk 10
Cal 430
Mag 1380
Amm 0
Phosphate .36
Nitrite 0
Nitrate 7

Only dosing Alk 5ml/day,cal 10ml/day.I haven't been doing mag because it has been high and i am letting it come down. That's it.

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Your magnesium isn't bad, your phosphates are a little higher than they should be.

glb · Sep 28, 2013

It's a mystery to me too. Some grow fast, others slow. Haven't figured it out yet.

calvo15290 · Sep 28, 2013

glb said:
It's a mystery to me too. Some grow fast, others slow. Haven't figured it out yet.

My theory is coloration and light levels maybe also structure as in he skirt

dwilliams87 · Sep 28, 2013

I would definitely get those phosphates down.

Bubbles_B · Sep 28, 2013

No one seems to be addressing the issue correctly. The person is asking for assistance. The Radio active dragon eyes are shrinking and receding. My fought could be an issue with flow. My WWC Laser Lemons reacted in a similar manner although it took several days to get used to its new location.

Speaking of location did you recently move it into that spot?

Are you dosing any elements, vitamins, etc?

What is your livestock, fish, inverts, things like that?

Lastly, yes I agree your phosphates are a bit high do a water 20 percent change it wont hurt. Also, is it tap water that is being used in your system?

glb · Sep 28, 2013

Umm, we're all commenting on his question. Don't think there's a right or wrong way to do that...

Shtiff1 · Sep 28, 2013

calvo15290 said:
My theory is coloration and light levels maybe also structure as in he skirt

My lights are 8 - 36 in T5 HO's. Two coral sun, four ocean sun, two marine glow.

Zoas are 19 in. from lights

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Shtiff1 · Sep 28, 2013

dwilliams87 said:
I would definitely get those phosphates down.

How can I remove other than water changes?

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glb · Sep 28, 2013

Shtiff1 said:
My lights are 8 - 36 in T5 HO's. Two coral sun, four ocean sun, two marine glow.

Zoas are 19 in. from lights

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I try moving mine around if they're not thriving. Different flow, light, etc. Theres no formula really. Just keep watching them until you find the right spot.

Shtiff1 · Sep 28, 2013

Bubbles_B said:
No one seems to be addressing the issue correctly. The person is asking for assistance. The Radio active dragon eyes are shrinking and receding. My fought could be an issue with flow. My WWC Laser Lemons reacted in a similar manner although it took several days to get used to its new location.

Speaking of location did you recently move it into that spot?

Are you dosing any elements, vitamins, etc?

What is your livestock, fish, inverts, things like that?

Lastly, yes I agree your phosphates are a bit high do a water 20 percent change it wont hurt. Also, is it tap water that is being used in your system?

Thanks.
I had them on the other side of the tank and noticed that they were not doing as good as the eagle eyes so I moved them next to the eagle eyes. They have been there about 2 months now and they have started this recession in the last week. Only dosing alk, cal, mag. Clowns, wrasse, damsels, fire fish, gobies, tangs, shrimp. Frog spawn, hammers, Pipe organ, duncan, Candy cane, dendro, leathers, mushrooms, Acan, blastos, Coco worm, star polyp, war coral, Hollywood stunner, Monipora, pavona, rock flower, Sabae.
Is there another way to remove phosphate and nitrates. Other than water changes, I currently use chemi pure that gets changed in October. I see a lot of people use gfo or carbon Reactors. Will those deplete the food source of the starfishes or the montipora?

Thanks

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glb · Sep 28, 2013

Shtiff1 said:
Thanks.
I had them on the other side of the tank and noticed that they were not doing as good as the eagle eyes so I moved them next to the eagle eyes. They have been there about 2 months now and they have started this recession in the last week. Only dosing alk, cal, mag. Clowns, wrasse, damsels, fire fish, gobies, tangs, shrimp. Frog spawn, hammers, Pipe organ, duncan, Candy cane, dendro, leathers, mushrooms, Acan, blastos, Coco worm, star polyp, war coral, Hollywood stunner, Monipora, pavona, rock flower, Sabae.
Is there another way to remove phosphate and nitrates. Other than water changes, I currently use chemi pure that gets changed in October. I see a lot of people use gfo or carbon Reactors. Will those deplete the food source of the starfishes or the montipora?

Thanks

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I have a Dr. P's nitrate medium in my sump that helps with nitrates. I have purigen back there too. Others have used vodka dosing but I've never done that so someone else would have to chime in on whether or not that would be good in your situation. Luckily, zoas are more forgiving with nitrates.

Tenor · Sep 28, 2013

You might have too much light for the one on the left (Radio active dragon eyes). Try to move it on the lower light area and leave it there for couple weeks to see it will getting any better.

Shtiff1 · Sep 28, 2013

Tenor said:
You might have too much light for the one on the left (Radio active dragon eyes). Try to move it on the lower light area and leave it there for couple weeks to see it will getting any better.

Thank you i will try that because it was starting to do that on the other side of the tank also, about the same distance from the lights. Thanks

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Tenor · Sep 28, 2013

Shtiff1 said:
Thank you i will try that because it was starting to do that on the other side of the tank also, about the same distance from the lights. Thanks

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You couldpPlace it on the other side of the tank on the sand bed