10X Turnover... How to achieve?

[esther]

Someone help me figure this out... We have a 220.6 Waterbox Reef Pro. We're looking to run the Triton Method. On the Triton Method, it suggests that you have 10X turnover of your water. So, we bought the Reef October VarioS-8. Rated for 2,200+ GPH. We're currently running it on the lowest setting and our tank is suuuuuuuuper quiet. We've got it dialed in perfectly.

We want more water turnover, but as soon as we increase the flow on the return pump, the water level in the sump drops dramatically and it sounds like Niagara Falls in our tank. How do I go about tuning this? Anyone out there running their similar sized tanks with this much turnover? Any help is appreciated.

#reefsquad

 

[crusso1993]

Someone help me figure this out... We have a 220.6 Waterbox Reef Pro. We're looking to run the Triton Method. On the Triton Method, it suggests that you have 10X turnover of your water. So, we bought the Reef October VarioS-8. Rated for 2,200+ GPH. We're currently running it on the lowest setting and our tank is suuuuuuuuper quiet. We've got it dialed in perfectly.

We want more water turnover, but as soon as we increase the flow on the return pump, the water level in the sump drops dramatically and it sounds like Niagara Falls in our tank. How do I go about tuning this? Anyone out there running their similar sized tanks with this much turnover? Any help is appreciated.

#reefsquad

First question I have to ask is is the system designed to handle a 10X turnover rate? (i.e. - overflow capability, size of pipe to the sump, size of pipe back to tank, delivery method back into tank)

 

[Billldg]

Do you have hand valves on your drain and are they fully open? The higher turnover is the louder it will get depending on your drain pipe size.

 

[MattDaReefer]

You will need to balance the return rate of water flow with the rate of water flow coming into the sump. In order to turnover more water through the sump area. You can't move that is not there yet.

 

[Hemmdog]

Crank it up and tune the valve until it’s quiet.

 

[esther]

First question I have to ask is is the system designed to handle a 10X turnover rate? (i.e. - overflow capability, size of pipe to the sump, size of pipe back to tank, delivery method back into tank)

Waterbox recommends a Vectra M2 on their website for this tank, so I'm going to assume yes.

 

[esther]

Do you have hand valves on your drain and are they fully open? The higher turnover is the louder it will get depending on your drain pipe size.

This is what the plumbing looks like. Will it be loud regardless of how we tune?

 

[motortrendz]

I've never done 10x through the sump 4-5x is plenty. Create the flow in the tank with powerheads. You can get the rest of your flow that way.

 

[esther]

Crank it up and tune the valve until it’s quiet.

We've tried. Can't get it quiet. Also, the sump level drops dramatically. I don't want to put a ton more water in it because I don't want the sump to overflow if we ever lose power. Am I looking at this the wrong way?

 

[esther]

I've never done 10x through the sump 4-5x is plenty. Create the flow in the tank with powerheads. You can get the rest of your flow that way.

We have two MP40s on the tank as well.

 

[motortrendz]

We have two MP40s on the tank as well.

Then I would get it so its quiet and not worry too much. What size are the drain pipes? Is there only one set of drains like you pictured or just 1?

 

[esther]

I've never done 10x through the sump 4-5x is plenty. Create the flow in the tank with powerheads. You can get the rest of your flow that way.

We can't even get 4-5X... Maybe I need to mess with the gate valve some more.

 

[Billldg]

I don't run the triton method, so someone please step in, but does it require 10x turnover on the sump, or just total tank turnover? If its total tank turnover then its easy with the powerheads as others have stated.

 

[esther]

Then I would get it so its quiet and not worry too much. What size are the drain pipes? Is there only one set of drains like you pictured or just 1?

Just like the picture.

Plumbing Sizes:
Main Drain - DN32
Emergency Overflow - DN32
Pump Return - DN25
Nozzles - DN15 x 2

 

[motortrendz]

I don't run the triton method, so someone please step in, but does it require 10x turnover on the sump, or just total tank turnover?

I've never run Triton either. But 10x though the sump seems like alot.

 

[esther]

I don't run the triton method, so someone please step in, but does it require 10x turnover on the sump, or just total tank turnover? If its total tank turnover then its easy with the powerheads as others have stated.

It's 10X display tank volume/hr. So, with our two MP40's and the return, sounds like we should be good, right?

 

[motortrendz]

Just like the picture.

Plumbing Sizes:
Main Drain - DN32
Emergency Overflow - DN32
Pump Return - DN25
Nozzles - DN15 x 2

I dont know what those numbers mean, is that a measurement in millimeters?

 

[esther]

I dont know what those numbers mean, is that a measurement in millimeters?

Sorry, yes.

 

[Billldg]

It's 10X display tank volume/hr. So, with our two MP40's and the return, sounds like we should be good, right?

Oh yea, easily. That sounds more like it. Trying to obtain a 10x turnover thru one drain pipe is going to be noisy.

 

[Jon Warner]

10x flow through the sump is silly.
3-5x works best with additional flow devices inside. High flow through the sump causes all kinds of headaches.