16" Shadow overflow: Lid salt creep

[User]

So, to stop the salt creep, you had to remove half of the synergy reef overflow and replace it with a third-party external box? That also happens to be taller, and therefore has the extra bonus of being able to be run completely ‘weir drop’ free and silent.

This new external box DOESNT get salt creep? I’m confused [emoji848]I thought they all had ‘issues’ like this?

Is it because the box is eurobraced and doesn’t warp, so the lid actually fits once it’s got water in it?

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[justingraham]

So the original back box the water was 1/2 inch below the lid so when the water came splashing in water as it does would get shot up in the air my tanning bed of lights would then dry out the water and leave the salt behind (one salt creep that was left behind looked like Jesus was going to sell it to recoup some money but it fell apart)

With this new revolutionary back box fix the water line is 1.5 inches away from the top hole of the box

But since both bulkheads are under water and the front box is the same height as the back box

there is way less turblance to splash water up also as an added bonus because the water isn’t falling down the bulkheads and then dropping down the primary drain the unbearable noise no longer exist either

Double bonus and by far the best fix to both of the major problems with this overflow box

 

[justingraham]

So, to stop the salt creep, you had to remove half of the synergy reef overflow and replace it with a third-party external box? That also happens to be taller, and therefore has the extra bonus of being able to be run completely ‘weir drop’ free and silent.

This new external box DOESNT get salt creep? I’m confused [emoji848]I thought they all had ‘issues’ like this?

Is it because the box is eurobraced and doesn’t warp, so the lid actually fits once it’s got water in it?

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See last post for a picture detailed answer

 

[theMeat]

Me no understand.
In synergy overflows that i’v installed the through the tank bulkheads are not under water. Only about a third under, maybe less.
Suspect your plumbing in outside box is too hi.

 

[justingraham]

Me no understand.
In synergy overflows that i’v installed the through the tank bulkheads are not under water. Only about a third under, maybe less.
Suspect your plumbing in outside box is too hi.

This has nothing to do with salt creep but I will take a guestamite u have a pump rated for 2000 gallons but after you plumbed it down to 3/4 and with all of your restrictions you are only truly getting around 300 gallons an hour out of your pump which this overflow can handle

 

[rushbattle]

Again this thread is about salt creep. Do you have any input on that? If not let’s please get this thread back on topic.

Yes I do, it's included in the overall claims made above. Synergy claims it is a user error, based on their accounts posts on this very site, and it most certainly is not user error if those same users wish to retain the other qualities claimed by Synergy, like redundant drains, etc. The solution is detailed in images above. Replacement of the overflow. Otherwise, one can put some adhesive or something else that's a bad idea on the rim and try to solve the problem. Do you think it is reasonable to give up access to the internals of the overflow outer box to solve salt creep?

 

[theMeat]

This has nothing to do with salt creep but I will take a guestamite u have a pump rated for 2000 gallons but after you plumbed it down to 3/4 and with all of your restrictions you are only truly getting around 300 gallons an hour out of your pump which this overflow can handle

Well would say good guess but not even close. Doing around 1100 gph on my 220 as measured
My installed boxes also have no salt creep. Maybe because plumbing inside box, therefore water level is lower/ further away from lid.

 

[User]

See last post for a picture detailed answer

I know- I was being facetious.

Because the solution to the bad design of the synergy overflow, is to replace it with an EMS outer box

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[rushbattle]

So, to stop the salt creep, you had to remove half of the synergy reef overflow and replace it with a third-party external box? That also happens to be taller, and therefore has the extra bonus of being able to be run completely ‘weir drop’ free and silent.

This new external box DOESNT get salt creep? I’m confused [emoji848]I thought they all had ‘issues’ like this?

Is it because the box is eurobraced and doesn’t warp, so the lid actually fits once it’s got water in it?

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This.

 

[User]

Me no understand.
In synergy overflows that i’v installed the through the tank bulkheads are not under water. Only about a third under, maybe less.
Suspect your plumbing in outside box is too hi.

Lol - if the bulkhead holes are only 1/3rd under water, you are running your water level WAY UNDER the 0.5” below the top of the outer box that Synergy themselves recommends to keep it silent.

I just measured- water level at 1/3rd of bulkhead holes is a ‘weir drop’ of 5.25”... — coincidently, the exact same as my system right now, that I was criticized for having set up incorrectly above— and I 100% guarantee you that yours isn’t running quiet.

Because I can hear mine from my master bedroom 40 ft away.

Red is water level in rear box, green is the bottom of bulkhead holes

Yellow is the weir drop

If you run your water level 0.5” below the top of the outer box as recommended by synergy— in order to eliminate all noise from weir drop— the bulkhead holes are entirely submerged since they are 1” below the top of the outer box.

This also puts your BA emergency line too close to the top of the box to purge correctly at higher flow rates

 

[rushbattle]

Lol - if the bulkhead holes are only 1/3rd under water, you are running your water level WAY UNDER the 0.5” below the top of the outer box that Synergy themselves recommends to keep it silent.

I just measured- water level at 1/3rd of bulkhead holes is a ‘weir drop’ of 5.25”... — coincidently, the exact same as my system right now, that I was criticized for having set up incorrectly above— and I 100% guarantee you that yours isn’t running quiet.

Because I can hear mine from my master bedroom 40 ft away.

Red is water level in rear box, green is the bottom of bulkhead holes

Yellow is the weir drop

If you run your water level 0.5” below the top of the outer box as recommended by synergy— in order to eliminate all noise from weir drop— the bulkhead holes are entirely submerged since they are 1” below the top of the outer box.

This also puts your BA emergency line too close to the top of the box to purge correctly at higher flow rates

@kschweer Does this suffice as on topic?

 

[User]

Well would say good guess but not even close. Doing around 1100 gph on my 220 as measured
My installed boxes also have no salt creep. Maybe because plumbing inside box, therefore water level is lower/ further away from lid.

That’s great.

But you are lying if you tell us it’s silent in that configuration.

Because I’m running mine at the same water level you described, at 830 gph, and it’s like someone running a faucet.

And frankly, unless you show us video of this totally silent 5.25” weir drop at 1100 gph, I’m going to think you’re obfuscating on purpose

 

[User]

@kschweer Does this suffice as on topic?

Probably not on topic since I didn’t mention salt creep, but it sure is present in the picture

 

[Dubs83]

Well would say good guess but not even close. Doing around 1100 gph on my 220 as measured
My installed boxes also have no salt creep. Maybe because plumbing inside box, therefore water level is lower/ further away from lid.

Show me. I’m not being a smart a.... I just want to see. I had 850gph, per Neptune Apex and the FMM, but I believe @justingraham was told the FMM and flow meters are not even close to being accurate. 850gph pipes in the rear box were raised to submerge the bulk heads, per @mixer911, and still noise! Not only noise but salt creep

Here’s shortly after I took it off the tank and shortly before it went in the trash.

 

[Dubs83]

I had to crop the photo as the bottom portion was inappropriate

 

[User]

Show me. I’m not being a smart a.... I just want to see. I had 850gph, per Neptune Apex and the FMM, but I believe @justingraham was told the FMM and flow meters are not even close to being accurate. 850gph pipes in the rear box were raised to submerge the bulk heads, per @mixer911, and still noise! Not only noise but salt creep

Here’s shortly after I took it off the tank and shortly before it went in the trash.

Why’d you crop it bro?!! Lol

 

[User]

Here’s a video of mine running lower flow but same water level as TheMeat...

So other people can decide for themselves

 

[Dubs83]

Here’s a video of mine running lower flow but same water level as TheMeat...

So other people can decide for themselves

I hear nothing! The salt looking stuff... you just threw some white out in there... friggen liar

 

[User]

I hear nothing! The salt looking stuff... you just threw some white out in there... friggen liar

Sure had fun getting kicked off this thread with you !

 

[Dubs83]

Why’d you crop it bro?!! Lol

Haha! I literally laughed out loud.