3 torches receeding over time

[roggy23]

I would say that's due to an infection. It looks pretty far gone but maybe a dip in antibiotics. I also like to dip in peroxide right away. Sometimes you can get an infectious bacterial thing going on and it will take out torches pretty easy, they seem the most susceptible.

Even with a UV running?

 

[Auto-pilot]

Yes uv can help but it most definitely doesn't prevent this. In the past I have gotten a sick coral and it infected all my lps corals and I was running a UV. Antibiotics fixed my issues

 

[i cant think]

Here's a couple pics

I don’t think this was just an Infection on its own causing this, I have a feeling the coral went downhill then got infected.
This may have been due to lack of PAR as I see you run only whites (I’ve not found white to push much PAR so I always run Atleast 15% of blues depending on how strong the light is).
Torches in general are incredibly picky, I’m 4 years into my tank and only now keeping a torch that actually splits.

You may find an imbalance of bacteria is currently in your tank as that generally causes torches to wilt after even being incredibly happy. I had it happen with my 20+ head colony and now it’s staying in the 1 head group… this also caused my Joker Torch to wilt after only a week in the tank. And yes, I was running UV during these two issues and I still do. It does help with some things but other issues it doesn’t help with.

 

[roggy23]

I don’t think this was just an Infection on its own causing this, I have a feeling the coral went downhill then got infected.
This may have been due to lack of PAR as I see you run only whites (I’ve not found white to push much PAR so I always run Atleast 15% of blues depending on how strong the light is).
Torches in general are incredibly picky, I’m 4 years into my tank and only now keeping a torch that actually splits.

You may find an imbalance of bacteria is currently in your tank as that generally causes torches to wilt after even being incredibly happy. I had it happen with my 20+ head colony and now it’s staying in the 1 head group… this also caused my Joker Torch to wilt after only a week in the tank. And yes, I was running UV during these two issues and I still do. It does help with some things but other issues it doesn’t help with.

Thanks..it was only white for the pic.. I run Saxby on my hydras

 

[i cant think]

Thanks..it was only white for the pic.. I run Saxby on my hydras

Do you know what PAR your torch was under?
150-250 is generally the best range depending on the colour (Golds do best in 200-250 IME).

 

[billyocean]

The toadstool may be giving off turpenes that can effect them. I'm not sure of the scientifics of it all. Proximity and water volume may play a part. Running carbon may help. It looks bacterial and uv depends on flow rate for different effectiveness. The toadstool may be the problem. Someone with better knowledge could answer that.

 

[EeyoreIsMySpiritAnimal]

Your nutrients are about where mine are, I'm trying to get mine up to 20ish NO3 and .09 PO4. But all my Torches have been doing well.




Someone wake up on the wrong side of the bed. Why be so rude to someone asking for help. This is a great community for exactly that, asking questions. Your responses are absolutely uncalled for...

Not rude, just realistic. And I'm sorry I didn't have time to go into more detail as I had planned. But thanks for your kind reply...

 

[Jason_MrFrags]

Depends on where you got them from. Were they recently imported? or have they been in someones tank for a year? Makes a lot of diffrence. if they have already been conditioned.

 

[Wasabiroot]

Not rude, just realistic. And I'm sorry I didn't have time to go into more detail as I had planned. But thanks for your kind reply...

I think one or two additional sentences clarifying your comment re:starvation wouldn't have taken very long... I could see the phosphate being potentially low (test margin for error and all) but otherwise the nitrates and phosphates seem to appear in acceptable ranges.

For what it's worth, the pic you linked shows virtually no tissue. It may not pull through. Torches are finicky sometimes, even when things are going well.

In my personal opinion, while cipro has promise for treating certain infections, I don't think prophylactic use of antibiotics is generally a good long term practice unless you're sure it's bacterial. It may sound like doomerism but antibiotics should be carefully considered, and not so much as a "just in case" thing.

 

[ElementReefer]

Even with a UV running?

UV only kills what’s floating in the water (as that water runs through the uv lights.) Most bacteria actually colonize surfaces, so UV doesn’t affect them much.

 

[ElementReefer]

Here's a couple pics

I’ve had euphyllia in this state before. Here’s how I saved them:

Set up a small hospital tank, I use a 5 gallon from PetSmart with a $20 hob filter for some circulation and a cheap little preset heater. Fill it with tank water (or a mix of tank and freshly mixed).

set up a little bowl of 25% drug store hydrogen peroxide and 75% tank water

set up a little bowl of tank water with a few drops of iodine

Dip each sick coral in the HP bowl for a few minutes, and then the iodine bowl for a few minutes.

put each coral in the hospital tank

When they’re all in, treat the hospital tank for 5 days with either cipro OR doxycycline. Both available at pet stores.


They may look even worse for a while, or they’ll die. You have nothing to lose at this point. Mine all survived.

 

[ronnie]

I’ve got a torch doing similar things and found my ALK had tanked to under 7 last night. I don’t think it’ll pull through unfortunately. Recessed considerably this morning.

 

[EeyoreIsMySpiritAnimal]

For what it's worth, the pic you linked shows virtually no tissue. It may not pull through. Torches are finicky sometimes, even when things are going well.

I did not link anything...

 

[Wasabiroot]

I did not link anything...

Sorry, I meant the OP. I should have clarified before the sentence break

 

[RiftRaftReefing]

Has anyone tried aquabiom it’s something I’ve been reading about lately it’s basically like a triton test but for bacteria in your reef and apparently it’s able to tell your beneficial bacteria from bad bacteria and gives a somewhat detailed Brake down of what’s in your reef tank

 

[EeyoreIsMySpiritAnimal]

Has anyone tried aquabiom it’s something I’ve been reading about lately it’s basically like a triton test but for bacteria in your reef and apparently it’s able to tell your beneficial bacteria from bad bacteria and gives a somewhat detailed Brake down of what’s in your reef tank

I'm assuming you mean Aquabiomics. Do a search as there are already quite a few threads about their tests.