3d printing and it's future effect on this hobby.

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We all know we overpay for pieces of plastic in this hobby. Protein skimmers, return valves, media trays, pretty much everything that is non-mechanical.

We pay such costs because most aquarium goods are low volume items. Media trays and racks custom made for a particular model of aquarium. Protein skimmers that cost $600 dollars, that use maybe a $200 pump, the rest is plastic.

I think 3d printing will change this hobby dramatically. As well as MOST hobbies where we pay insane prices for cheap niche plastic items. In 20 years if someone needs a new return valve they will simply print it. If they need a protein skimmer for their tank, they will print it, frag racks or holders, print them. A check valve, print it.

Right now the limiting factor is not the technology, it exists, but the cost of the system. In addition to limited number of plans. In 20 years I don't see too many people running to the hardware store for simple items. Like light switch covers, or a plastic fitting, or even screws and nails.

I know it already has a effect on the model hobbies, trains, planes, RC, ext. Adoption is high in the high end nich markets of those hobbies and growing. I see 3d printing now, as what computers where 30 years ago. My dentist even uses 3d printing for crowns, my eye doctor can make custom frames. Some of the schools in my area have started including them into the classrooms. Just like the old APPLEIIE was adopted back in the day, they keep it in a technology lab, but soon most classrooms will have them.

Bottom line the more expensive a niche, or custom item is, the faster a market will adopt. The aquarium hobby is an expensive niche market with lots of custom needs. I see our adoption starting within the next few years in full force.

Your thoughts?
 
Links!

Would like to see some examples like you mentioned!

(It's not hard to imagine what you describe, BTW. I really hope in 20 years that more than just this aspect of the hobby changes!)
 
Links!

Would like to see some examples like you mentioned!

(It's not hard to imagine what you describe, BTW. I really hope in 20 years that more than just this aspect of the hobby changes!)
Protein skimmer

Model deer (custom models are great for the model train enthusiasts crowds)

RC car 3d printed.

3d printed ceramic. Now imagine you could print custom rocks with a ceramic material.

Water saving 3d printed toilet sink.

Glasses
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3MMoaojVuM

As for the test of the hobby changing, wireless underwater LED lighting is coming. The technology exists already, the problem is cost. Imagine a 60 gallon tank, with 2 separate areas stacked on top of each other, or frag racks growing over and under one another.

Wireless reefing powerheads, lights, pumps. All can be done. The technology just needs to progress and be tuned, as well as lowered in cost to produce. I don't know if anyone is working on this technology for our hobby, but wireless power stations with a range of 6 meters where shown at CES a few years ago.
 
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Protein skimmer

Model deer (custom models are great for the model train enthusiasts crowds)

RC car 3d printed.

3d printed ceramic. Now imagine you could print custom rocks with a ceramic material.

Water saving 3d printed toilet sink.

Glasses
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3MMoaojVuM

As for the test of the hobby changing, wireless underwater LED lighting is coming. The technology exists already, the problem is cost. Imagine a 60 gallon tank, with 2 separate areas stacked on top of each other, or frag racks growing over and under one another.

Wireless reefing powerheads, lights, pumps. All can be done. The technology just needs to progress and be tuned, as well as lowered in cost to produce. I don't know if anyone is working on this technology for our hobby, but wireless power stations with a range of 6 meters where shown at CES a few years ago.

I meant links for the printers, sorry.

What did it cost for that dude to print that little deer? :-) :-) :-)

Underwater LEDs are already a reality - cost does not seem to be a big issue. (See Tunze.)

Tesla demonstrated wireless power, so that's old, but AFAIK never commercialized... I suspect there may be practical issues preventing it but we'll see I guess. [emoji6]
 
I already use my 3D printer for things in this hobby, i.e. I posed a new Fan Blade mod in the DIY section for my Panworld pump. The old one broke and there were not ones easily accessible to purchase (I am sure they were out there). I prototyped a part, refined it, and printed a final piece. My pump has been running that fan for about 6 months without issue and works better than the original. The pump keeps much cooler, almost like the heat sink mod.

I think the limiting factor on the adoption is:
  1. Knowlege on how to design or properly print a part. This is a huge factor, as most people don't have the knowledge right now to design a part for use. Not to say this isn't getting better as there are a lot of companies out there that are making this easier and easier. Tinkercad is one that makes it easy to design simplistic parts for printing. The other factor in this is the proper printing of the part. Right now there is a lot of tinkering that needs to be done to get an effective print, i.e. bed temperature, hot end temperature, feed rate, material, bed level, etc. Most people don't have the patience to do this.
  2. Printing Material. Majority of the materials we print with these days are not "food" safe. There are materials out there that are considered food safe and will not degrade in water, but the cost of these are quite high. Not to mention that some printers can't handle these materials. Some that are considered food safe are TGlass, which as the name states a glass like material and is FDA approved. Some ABS plastics are food safe, but the long term effect on livestock is yet to be determined.
  3. Cost of a 3D printer. These can range anywhere from $400-$3000+.
I have been using a Printrbot Simple 2014 for quite a while and has done me well, but only has a 4"x4"x4" build plate by default. I have since upgraded it to a larger build plate and downgraded it back. I am in the process of building a new printer that will have a 12"x12"x12" build plate and should have everything I want in a printer.

As far as cost on printing a part, it isn't too much money. That deer above probably only costed about %0.50. You have to remember that the entire printed part isn't solid. You set a fill percent, usually 20% for non-load parts, and only the outside 2mm is solid. The interior is usually a grid like pattern to give it structure.

Printers(only a few and most well known):
http://printrbot.com
http://www.makerbot.com
https://ultimaker.com
 
Cool topic!
 
$0.50 + $3000 = $3000.50 deer.

I'd print it solid at that rate! :-)
 
I'm waiting for my first 3D printer to show up then I will be printing parts for the tank everyday.
 
I don't mean to contradict you, in fact I'd like to see a list of what you plan to print even if it's only a partial or theoretical.

Leaving aside the suitability of the materials, I'm having trouble thinking of a single thing that I would want to print. :-)
 
I've seen people print impellers for skimmers and return pumps, replacement parts for a busted skimmer, and brackets for supplement lights.

I'm a machinist and were seeing more and more printed plates coming out. The power and ease of use on some very reasonable priced machines is insane. This looks to be the future for a lot of the plastic and some of the metal industries.
Favorite is the 3d printed cast.
http://techcrunch.com/2014/05/29/a-3d-printed-cast-that-can-heal-your-bones-40-80-faster/
 
I had been wanting a 3D printer for years and I finally got a Turnigy Fabrikator during a black Friday sale last year. It is a lower end model but I have been getting great prints out of it because I was meticulous in setting it up. I have printed quite a few things but no tank stuff yet.

I am trying to learn some design software but haven't had much time to devote to it yet. I love to DIY stuff for the tank but haven't found anything I really want on thingiverse or other sites so I'll have to learn to do it myself.
 
I had been wanting a 3D printer for years and I finally got a Turnigy Fabrikator during a black Friday sale last year. It is a lower end model but I have been getting great prints out of it because I was meticulous in setting it up. I have printed quite a few things but no tank stuff yet.

I am trying to learn some design software but haven't had much time to devote to it yet. I love to DIY stuff for the tank but haven't found anything I really want on thingiverse or other sites so I'll have to learn to do it myself.
I would recommend spending a little time with Tinkercad to get you feet wet. It is a really good application and it has tutorials on how to do basic things. From there you can come up with designs on your own. The one thing to remember is to break a part down into its simplest form, i.e. circles, squares, etc. Once you have reached the limits on what you can do with Tinkercad, try out others like Fusion 360 (what I use) or Onshape. Stick with one that you feel comfortable with and learn it.

I come from old school CAD software, so Fusion 360 felt the best to me. They provide the software free to hobbiest, meaning you don't sell your designs.
 
I've been trying Fusion 360 and have designed some very simple stuff. I have tried several and I think I like it the most so far.
 
I have a 3D printer w/ an enclosed chamber, internal heater to make sure things stay perfect for ABS printing.

I have an entire list of things I would / will print for my aquarium that isn't currently available on the market.

3D printer + Arduino controller and some sensors = Alot of cool things.
 
Fellow local reefers to me have talked about this also, The one thing that keeps coming up is the leeching part of 3D printing.
 
I just seen this at a convention at the science center ..they had 3d printer n things they printed...i will post pics
 
Fellow local reefers to me have talked about this also, The one thing that keeps coming up is the leeching part of 3D printing.
Yes. You just need to make sure that the filament is FDA approved. PLA, the most common filament used, will dissolve in water over time and is ply able after a day.
 
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the printer...sry bad cell phone pic
 

IF YOU HAD TO TAKE A REEFING EXAM, WOULD YOU PASS?

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  • Not yet, but I have one that I want to buy in mind!

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