A Warning about Amazons Lost Shipment Policy.

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Just a heads up to my fellow reefers that buy lots of stuff on Amazon.
I had an experience and I though it was just my bad luck in getting the wrong person, that was until I met a friend last week who does home restoration for rich clients. He had the exact same experience with Amazon and he told me it seems to be a new policy that started a few weeks ago.

So heres what happened. I bought a set of extension tubes for my Nikon DSLR camera and the package was shipped by UPS.
On the day of arrival I noticed it was signed for by someone I did not know. I called UPS and they put me on a long hold and then came back and said that it was accidentally delivered to the wrong address and that I should contact Amazon and tell them to contact UPS so that they can file a claim with UPS and get refunded. And yes I did ask where they delivered it but the lady said they cannot give out that info ;Meh I am still wondering how they even know what address it went to.

Anyway no big problem, lost packages have happened before and Amazons normal response is that they will ship out another one ASAP or they will refund me.

NOPE NOT this time and trust me I have only maybe had six package problems over a 15 year period and I spend $20K+ with them Annually. My friend spends over $350K annually with them and he got the same response from them.

The CSR lady at Amazon said no problem I will do new order and then a minute later she says the computer will not let her do a new order and that she would have talk to her supervisor, so I was put on hold for 15 minutes and then she said sorry but we will have to do an investigation with UPS and when we get a refund guarantee we will refund you. I was shocked so I asked her why don't you just call UPS now and they will tell you that it is their fault. She said no she does not handle that area and it would have to go through another dept. Now I kind of got angry and said so you guys expect me to wait out a month for a refund on an item that UPS admits they lost. Then I asked her to look at my account and see how much money I have spent with them in 2020 alone. She says yes I can see you buy a lot of stuff on Amazon and she said hold on a minute let me talk to my supervisor again. Ten minutes later she comes back and says they are going to help me out and issue a gift card for the value of the item. I just said thanks and then came off the phone. I then placed the same order again with BHphoto like I normally would have done and used my gift card on some other purchases.

My friend said he had the exact same issue over a $30 item and he nearly exploded with them on the phone. They also eventually gave him a refund but he said to me that it seemed to be based on his account size why they eventually did it.

My thinking is that UPS and USPS have gotten so bad of late that Amazon has decided that their open policy of just issuing refunds or sending new products is killing them, so they seem to have taken that ability away from the CSR's and seem to only allow it if a high ranking supervisor signs off on it.

So my message is to you is be careful and don't expect that same customer first attitude from Amazon because the customer is always right approach seems to have been removed.
 
I basically quit amazon at the beginning of the year. They keep using USPS which doesn't deliver to my house and I have to go to the post office and I won't start about the lady there who yells at me every time because it's my house adress instead of PO Box.
 
Or could be too many people have 1 in 20 packages "lost" and they had to change. A few often ruin it for all.
I honestly think that it is USPS that is ruining it. I have had so many package problems with them of late that I just stopped calling them. You will see a package marked as delivered but the package actually arrives two days later. Sometimes you see a message on the tracking that the package is out for delivery and then at the end of the day you see "The package is waiting for pickup". My same friend said that he has heard that the no overtime thing has made everything go to hell because the Covid situation has caused a huge increase in packages but USPS and UPS have at the same time basically down sized.
 
Yeah we stopped buying on Amazon in January as well, they're not that great of a place and I can usually find the items I'm looking for somewhere else cheaper and get faster shipping.
Won't even use UPS shipping any more, to many screwed up shipments from them.
 
Yeah we stopped buying on Amazon in January as well, they're not that great of a place and I can usually find the items I'm looking for somewhere else cheaper and get faster shipping.
Won't even use UPS shipping any more, to many screwed up shipments from them.
 
Sorry to hear that. To be honest most of the stuff i get from Amazon is sold by 3rd party vendors and never qulifies for the 1-2 day shipping. I never renewed my prime since they started charging the $120. I have been getting amazing deals from Sleezbay (Ebay) lately. Hopefully there will not be any shipping issues in the coming future. Glad it was not a box of expensive rocks...
 
Just a heads up to my fellow reefers that buy lots of stuff on Amazon.
I had an experience and I though it was just my bad luck in getting the wrong person, that was until I met a friend last week who does home restoration for rich clients. He had the exact same experience with Amazon and he told me it seems to be a new policy that started a few weeks ago.

So heres what happened. I bought a set of extension tubes for my Nikon DSLR camera and the package was shipped by UPS.
On the day of arrival I noticed it was signed for by someone I did not know. I called UPS and they put me on a long hold and then came back and said that it was accidentally delivered to the wrong address and that I should contact Amazon and tell them to contact UPS so that they can file a claim with UPS and get refunded. And yes I did ask where they delivered it but the lady said they cannot give out that info ;Meh I am still wondering how they even know what address it went to.

Anyway no big problem, lost packages have happened before and Amazons normal response is that they will ship out another one ASAP or they will refund me.

NOPE NOT this time and trust me I have only maybe had six package problems over a 15 year period and I spend $20K+ with them Annually. My friend spends over $350K annually with them and he got the same response from them.

The CSR lady at Amazon said no problem I will do new order and then a minute later she says the computer will not let her do a new order and that she would have talk to her supervisor, so I was put on hold for 15 minutes and then she said sorry but we will have to do an investigation with UPS and when we get a refund guarantee we will refund you. I was shocked so I asked her why don't you just call UPS now and they will tell you that it is their fault. She said no she does not handle that area and it would have to go through another dept. Now I kind of got angry and said so you guys expect me to wait out a month for a refund on an item that UPS admits they lost. Then I asked her to look at my account and see how much money I have spent with them in 2020 alone. She says yes I can see you buy a lot of stuff on Amazon and she said hold on a minute let me talk to my supervisor again. Ten minutes later she comes back and says they are going to help me out and issue a gift card for the value of the item. I just said thanks and then came off the phone. I then placed the same order again with BHphoto like I normally would have done and used my gift card on some other purchases.

My friend said he had the exact same issue over a $30 item and he nearly exploded with them on the phone. They also eventually gave him a refund but he said to me that it seemed to be based on his account size why they eventually did it.

My thinking is that UPS and USPS have gotten so bad of late that Amazon has decided that their open policy of just issuing refunds or sending new products is killing them, so they seem to have taken that ability away from the CSR's and seem to only allow it if a high ranking supervisor signs off on it.

So my message is to you is be careful and don't expect that same customer first attitude from Amazon because the customer is always right approach seems to have been removed.

Is that a business or a home that is spending 350k / year.

In any case I do not believe this is new. I had a similar experience in early February. It wasn't until I continued to press them that they sent me another one while they worked through the shipping issue. There is no fault of mine here and it is somewhere in between Amazon, the reseller, or shipping carrier. Once I explained that they have my money, they being Amazon, and I don't have my package, the buyer, they need to send another one as far as I'm concerned. They did.

You want to hear something funny? I sent in my energy bar to Neptune for repair last year the one that failed as part of the neighbourhood energy surge. Anyway I sent it in and figured I should probably have a spare so bought one. Anyway I entered the shipping information, billing information, received a confirmation email with the correct addressed and the next day it said delivered. Um, no. It wasn't. Checked tracking and it said yep, it was. I send a ticket, they reply back and said um, looks like we have a older address on file, sorry. Didn't say anything like Amazon or UPS, or whoever. They just verified the address and I had one the next day.

I felt bad. Called up and referenced the ticket. Said I'm pretty sure I know the address, it was my older house after all, and said I can get it. They said no. Not my issue and let it go. One should be here today. It was.

Not really related I guess but interesting never the less. Look Amazon is the two ton heavy thing today. They really do need to be busted up as do a few other companies dealing with search and sales. C19 isn't helping but if you entered the right information and carrier blew it they should do the right thing and provide a new one or credit.

They know who is abusing the system. They have the data. More and more reasons why my prime days are numbered.
 
Sorry to hear that. To be honest most of the stuff i get from Amazon is sold by 3rd party vendors and never qulifies for the 1-2 day shipping. I never renewed my prime since they started charging the $120. I have been getting amazing deals from Sleezbay (Ebay) lately. Hopefully there will not be any shipping issues in the coming future. Glad it was not a box of expensive rocks...

Interesting you should say that. It is true you can get some deals elsewhere but the flip side is also true. There are some items that Amazon is letting get marked up two fold. I've had to file several complaints over the last two months because of excessive mark ups. Provided normal prices and then their reseller.

I mean ebay and other places allow mark ups and it appears aws is allowing similar now.

Getting really old.
 
Has anyone ever received someone elses item from Amazon in the mail? I have. I received a package addressed to another person that lived maybe 3 or 4 blocks away. I called Amazon to report it thinking they would send someone to pick it up. Nope, the lady asked if I would take it to the persons home for them to which I said I would not. The customer service lady then told me to "throw it away or just keep it". I did not feel right about that so I just waited until one of the 5 or 6 Amazon trucks in my neighborhood drove by and I flagged them down and gave them the package to deliver to the person. Now I do not know if the package was ever delivered or not but at east it was out of my hands.
 
One: I hate thieves.
Two: The big three have thieves a plenty,
It seems that they do not even care and now it is becoming our problem, everytime I get something from Amazon I have a small hole in the corner of the package. I ordered GFO that was vacuumed seal so it felt like a tablet in a box, OH yeah there was a hole in that box, you betcha.
How hard is it to do a sting?
 
Is that a business or a home that is spending 350k / year.

In any case I do not believe this is new. I had a similar experience in early February. It wasn't until I continued to press them that they sent me another one while they worked through the shipping issue. There is no fault of mine here and it is somewhere in between Amazon, the reseller, or shipping carrier. Once I explained that they have my money, they being Amazon, and I don't have my package, the buyer, they need to send another one as far as I'm concerned. They did.

You want to hear something funny? I sent in my energy bar to Neptune for repair last year the one that failed as part of the neighbourhood energy surge. Anyway I sent it in and figured I should probably have a spare so bought one. Anyway I entered the shipping information, billing information, received a confirmation email with the correct addressed and the next day it said delivered. Um, no. It wasn't. Checked tracking and it said yep, it was. I send a ticket, they reply back and said um, looks like we have a older address on file, sorry. Didn't say anything like Amazon or UPS, or whoever. They just verified the address and I had one the next day.

I felt bad. Called up and referenced the ticket. Said I'm pretty sure I know the address, it was my older house after all, and said I can get it. They said no. Not my issue and let it go. One should be here today. It was.

Not really related I guess but interesting never the less. Look Amazon is the two ton heavy thing today. They really do need to be busted up as do a few other companies dealing with search and sales. C19 isn't helping but if you entered the right information and carrier blew it they should do the right thing and provide a new one or credit.

They know who is abusing the system. They have the data. More and more reasons why my prime days are numbered.
$350K is his own business and that's just what he buys from Amazon.
That issue you had with the powerbar was really Neptunes fault. I can see why they refunded it very quickly. I wonder what your old houses owners did with it. Probably went up on eBay.

As for prime, no way am I giving that up ;). I am what they probably consider a total loss as far as prime shipping goes. I would bet that every month I go through at least $200 worth of shipping expenses and if I did not have Prime I would be paying it.
As for the Free Prime TV stuff that is just icing on a very sweet cake:D
 
Interesting you should say that. It is true you can get some deals elsewhere but the flip side is also true. There are some items that Amazon is letting get marked up two fold. I've had to file several complaints over the last two months because of excessive mark ups. Provided normal prices and then their reseller.

I mean ebay and other places allow mark ups and it appears aws is allowing similar now.

Getting really old.
You guys are spot on!
About two months ago we finally broke down and got a new Wahl hair trimmer.
I think the Amazon price was about $40 normally but they were out of stock. The cheapest reseller had it for $65 and some went up to about $85. The resellers on Amazon have mostly become opportunistic thieves.
 
I honestly think that it is USPS that is ruining it. I have had so many package problems with them of late that I just stopped calling them. You will see a package marked as delivered but the package actually arrives two days later. Sometimes you see a message on the tracking that the package is out for delivery and then at the end of the day you see "The package is waiting for pickup". My same friend said that he has heard that the no overtime thing has made everything go to hell because the Covid situation has caused a huge increase in packages but USPS and UPS have at the same time basically down sized.

Unfortunately the USPS has turned into a political battleground. I've read stories (no I can't confirm) that the employees are being told to leave packages behind. These are supposedly coming from insiders. I really hate that because it seems anytime you choose the free shipping option from a lot of these retailers, the last mile is done by the USPS. I hate checking the shipping update to see dropped off with local USPS. I then know it will be another 2 to 4 days before I get it even though it is sitting at the local post office.
 
Usps has not delivered on time since covid began. Im waiting on a package now. Im not even sure it has shipped out of the original destination. Ups and FedEx have been great but not usps. Its bad.
My daughter had a bday card in July that was sent to the irs. Not even in the same zip code 9 digits off the last number
 
Had a similar issue with FedEx and another online vendor. FedEx delivered a package clearly addressed to someone else. I called both the merchant and FedEx but was put on hold a long time and hung up on several times. I eventually delivered the package I had to the correct address but never received my own order.

This is just the cost of buying online, although I'd go the Chargeback route if possible, and for that money, you can probably sue in court.
 

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