- Joined
- Dec 9, 2014
- Messages
- 30,220
- Reaction score
- 24,063
- Location
- tejas
- What state or country do you live in
- Alaska
K you are a reef trooper. You made good calls on saving that tank when variables came into play unplanned for, when you and I both were at work and couldn't chat for short intervals. I thought your temp catch issue was particularly deft control 
what a recovery. Hope the greater system is doing ok man and the residents who made the transition are doing well.
Tank ripping is the most dangerous thing for a tank in reefing. We might lose a couple animals, saving the entire reef. It is a risky act, and needed only in my opinion.
We should plan for not ever having to do that!! Something we all do or not do as aquarists (export-deep not topical) either causes or prevents the need for a rip cleaning in my opinion.
More added unexpected variables from friend ReefKnights tank rip via pm: human injury element (it's not well enough to have your tank in limbo lol)
ReefKnights tank and scape was so large, he spent all of one day just pulling and cleaning rocks. When I do rip cleans in my decade old pico, I'm handling four pounds of rock total. He handled hundreds of pounds of knurled, aged, vermetid-poky rocks and got hand infections. Needs to be treated with medical considerations beforehand
If we contract vibrio bacteria, very common in our tanks, that's serious risk of sepsis. Open cuts and mucous membranes are considerable protection points in reef rip cleaning.
One poster was burning lots of built up algae and detritus with peroxide and the smells made the nauseous
The actual popping action of peroxide is an aerosol pump for the surrounding areas to consider unforeseen variables.
Two schools of thought diverge after reading this:
1. Are you crazy for touching that? Leave it alone his tank isn't cycling as of now, this will cause it, and possibly some loss. Get some urchins. Nothing is dead as of now why do this bio assault? Leave it alone, the waste stores. Risk X 10
2. If you ever store detritus in the pores of your rocks and sand you create a finite lifespan for your tank that always favors primary algae production. Take your licks now and reverse course. Be opposite from day 1, and feed your tank better than you planned. Export better than you planned, or get auto machinery that does it. I should be able to see anyone's live rock looking this clean and purply without algae at any time because you -guided- it that way, not because a tank luckily produced it in that way.
The rate at which you must guide your reef into compliance ranges among tanks, and rarely copies from one setting to another.
Hand guiding what grows and doesn't grow is more important than nutrient control in algae battling. Nutrient control simply dictates how often we must hand guide. Hand guiding for me means peroxide assault. Lights out to others, or scraping. I use a cell kill cheat to amplify the effort.
what a recovery. Hope the greater system is doing ok man and the residents who made the transition are doing well.Tank ripping is the most dangerous thing for a tank in reefing. We might lose a couple animals, saving the entire reef. It is a risky act, and needed only in my opinion.
We should plan for not ever having to do that!! Something we all do or not do as aquarists (export-deep not topical) either causes or prevents the need for a rip cleaning in my opinion.
More added unexpected variables from friend ReefKnights tank rip via pm: human injury element (it's not well enough to have your tank in limbo lol)
ReefKnights tank and scape was so large, he spent all of one day just pulling and cleaning rocks. When I do rip cleans in my decade old pico, I'm handling four pounds of rock total. He handled hundreds of pounds of knurled, aged, vermetid-poky rocks and got hand infections. Needs to be treated with medical considerations beforehand
If we contract vibrio bacteria, very common in our tanks, that's serious risk of sepsis. Open cuts and mucous membranes are considerable protection points in reef rip cleaning.
One poster was burning lots of built up algae and detritus with peroxide and the smells made the nauseous
The actual popping action of peroxide is an aerosol pump for the surrounding areas to consider unforeseen variables.
Two schools of thought diverge after reading this:
1. Are you crazy for touching that? Leave it alone his tank isn't cycling as of now, this will cause it, and possibly some loss. Get some urchins. Nothing is dead as of now why do this bio assault? Leave it alone, the waste stores. Risk X 10
2. If you ever store detritus in the pores of your rocks and sand you create a finite lifespan for your tank that always favors primary algae production. Take your licks now and reverse course. Be opposite from day 1, and feed your tank better than you planned. Export better than you planned, or get auto machinery that does it. I should be able to see anyone's live rock looking this clean and purply without algae at any time because you -guided- it that way, not because a tank luckily produced it in that way.
The rate at which you must guide your reef into compliance ranges among tanks, and rarely copies from one setting to another.
Hand guiding what grows and doesn't grow is more important than nutrient control in algae battling. Nutrient control simply dictates how often we must hand guide. Hand guiding for me means peroxide assault. Lights out to others, or scraping. I use a cell kill cheat to amplify the effort.
Last edited:
