Aefw?
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Addicting Corals
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looks more like planaria are they on the tank walls and substrate ?
greg0385
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNBgONn0RZU&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Here a 5sec video of how fast they move.
Here a 5sec video of how fast they move.
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how did you get them in that container? were you dipping an acro and they came off or did you scoop them off the sand/rock/glass
greg0385
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The story is: i have bought alot acros lately from ebay. This person is a sponser here and i have gotten some killer deals on some awesome acros from this person. I have always dipped all new coral in bayer advance. I guess i made the mistake of mixing it to weak as i put 4cups of water to 6ml of bayer.
Most of the acros i get from online are doing well with about a 25% death rate. I have took this as just stress of different enviroment for the acros + the shipping stress. The weird thing is, they would start to lose flesh around the tips and it would slowly peel down to the base over a few weeks. When the coral arrive, they would be healthy looking for a few weeks then slowly die.
So tonight i figure i would dip a few dying acros to see if it would help.
These little things were all over the frag plug and were alive for over 30mins in a 4cup:6ml dip.
Im not sure they are and so i local member told me that my dip is to weak. So he advised 4cups:32ml dip and so i dipped every acro i had on the frag rack(12+). Unfortunately with the stronger dip is milkier so its too hard to tell its just debris or a bunch of these things on the bottom.
Most of the acros i get from online are doing well with about a 25% death rate. I have took this as just stress of different enviroment for the acros + the shipping stress. The weird thing is, they would start to lose flesh around the tips and it would slowly peel down to the base over a few weeks. When the coral arrive, they would be healthy looking for a few weeks then slowly die.
So tonight i figure i would dip a few dying acros to see if it would help.
These little things were all over the frag plug and were alive for over 30mins in a 4cup:6ml dip.
Im not sure they are and so i local member told me that my dip is to weak. So he advised 4cups:32ml dip and so i dipped every acro i had on the frag rack(12+). Unfortunately with the stronger dip is milkier so its too hard to tell its just debris or a bunch of these things on the bottom.
Addicting Corals
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so they came off a coral.....an acro when you dipped it? but you do not see them on your glass anywhere? that sounds like aefw but.......like j dog said they really dont look like aefw.
aefw are more oblonged shape not as long and sleek like the ones you are showing. also from my experience i have never seen an aefw with a forked tail wait til lights go out then turn them on for a sec an hour later and see if you see them on the glass.
usually planaria flourish in tanks with higher nitrate and or phosphate which could also be related to acros dying.....they are always the first to go
aefw are more oblonged shape not as long and sleek like the ones you are showing. also from my experience i have never seen an aefw with a forked tail wait til lights go out then turn them on for a sec an hour later and see if you see them on the glass.
usually planaria flourish in tanks with higher nitrate and or phosphate which could also be related to acros dying.....they are always the first to go
greg0385
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They were crawling over the white frag plug(contrast) and i used a pipette to blow them off and then collected as many as i could and put them in a sterofoam bowl. I will look later tonight about them being on the glass but to be honest. There is no way i would ever see these things on the glass as they tiny but will look anyways
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Oo ur fine
Its planaria just read up on different methods of removal in the forum
Sounds like ur light is too strong or ur having major alk swing if tips turn white then rtn
Its planaria just read up on different methods of removal in the forum
Sounds like ur light is too strong or ur having major alk swing if tips turn white then rtn
greg0385
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I should also post that i have over 40 high end acros that are doing well that i have great color and last time i checked phosphate( about a month ago) it was .04 per hannah phosphate checker.
So its only about 25% of new arrivals from this one person and the other 75% look amazing. I thought it was from lighting or just them being wild caught acros not doing well
So its only about 25% of new arrivals from this one person and the other 75% look amazing. I thought it was from lighting or just them being wild caught acros not doing well
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What lights u use?
greg0385
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Diy-90-3watt full spectrum led/ 4-t5 ati bulbs.
I thought the same about lights being strong but my tank is 30" tall and i put them on the sandbed for a week then move to a frag rack about 3" off the sand bed and slowly inch it up over the next week or two.
Alk swings was my first thought. But im not getting much of a demand as all my 40+ acros are less than 3" and most are only 1". So to give you idea of alk/cal demand. Im putting 1tsp of mrs wages lime in 4gallons to keep my alk at 7.8 tested 3x a week via hannah checker as i just started this about 2weeks ago and this issue has been going on for almost 2months
I thought the same about lights being strong but my tank is 30" tall and i put them on the sandbed for a week then move to a frag rack about 3" off the sand bed and slowly inch it up over the next week or two.
Alk swings was my first thought. But im not getting much of a demand as all my 40+ acros are less than 3" and most are only 1". So to give you idea of alk/cal demand. Im putting 1tsp of mrs wages lime in 4gallons to keep my alk at 7.8 tested 3x a week via hannah checker as i just started this about 2weeks ago and this issue has been going on for almost 2months
greg0385
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Not really growing, i do 30gallon water change every 2-3 weeks when i clean the sand bed. I use red sea salt and take the no growth to things "settling" into the new leds that i put in 4months ago as the color of all the corals as gotten WAY better since swapping from 250watt MH to the leds.
pickupman66
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those dont look like aefw to me at all. I had them last year. NOT FUN, but I beat them. and my DIP was 1ml Bayer: 1 cup water. there is alot of anecdotal evidence of stronger=Better IMO and it worked well for me. the AEFW peeled off the coral as soon as it hit the dip. add a power head or a baster and they were goners. just have to scrape the eggs.
the aefw I saw were oval shaped and acro colored. the ones you show look like they have two tails and IMO are Planaria. they were on dead coral looking for algae.
as for the tips receding.. what is your alk at? how often are you measuring it? are you doing carbon dosing of any sort? High alk and low nutrients= tip burn.
the aefw I saw were oval shaped and acro colored. the ones you show look like they have two tails and IMO are Planaria. they were on dead coral looking for algae.
as for the tips receding.. what is your alk at? how often are you measuring it? are you doing carbon dosing of any sort? High alk and low nutrients= tip burn.
greg0385
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Read my build threads for full detail why i feel the way i do.
I will glady check all params tomorrow except for mag as i dont have that test kit.
The main thing i want to know is, are these aefw?
The params arent as bad for me to deal with as dipping corals every 7 days for 8wks
I will glady check all params tomorrow except for mag as i dont have that test kit.
The main thing i want to know is, are these aefw?
The params arent as bad for me to deal with as dipping corals every 7 days for 8wks
