After A Rip Clean...Really?

[DHill6]

Like the title states, I performed a rip clean of a Reefer 170 yesterday to step on the gha problem. I don’t over feed, the clown eats a small piece of frozen, the mandarin and clown both eat a very small amount of TDO pellets. I skim, use a pinky filter pad in a basket, no sock, and a Santa Monica Rain 2. Only thing dosed is All for Reef , 5 ml nightly and Alk if needed. As for feeding I use a tube to feed LPS directly. The last time I checked parameters P04 was .04 N03 was .5
If I dose to bring up nitrates hello algae. I’m sure there’s both in there as the corals look ok. Every snail was cleaned with peroxide and toothbrush and scraped with a knife. After the rip clean I find this...suggestions? Dose peroxide?

 

[brandon429]

i wouldnt hit it just yet through the water, to allow it all to perk back up. is that some kind of cyano or a rooted/anchored type growth?

 

[DHill6]

Looks like it’s anchored.

 

[Alexreefer]

I personally would just keep it at bay and scrub of with a tooth brush every water change.

 

[DHill6]

i wouldnt hit it just yet through the water, to allow it all to perk back up. is that some kind of cyano or a rooted/anchored type growth?

I went through the entire display with peroxide and a scraper. GHA, a hard type green string type came in on clam. Ulva came in on snails I’m pretty sure. The anchored stuff I had before on dry rock but thought I’d gotten it all out, evidently not.

 

[Alexreefer]

I have dealt with dino, and I found that messing with it sometimes didnt help. After letting my tank re balance itself the dinos almost disappeared completely

 

[DHill6]

I personally would just keep it at bay and scrub of with a tooth brush every water change.

Thanks for reply, that’s why I did the rip clean and cleaned every snail shell. Toothbrush scrubbing won’t spread this stuff?

 

[Alexreefer]

I went through the entire display with peroxide and a scraper. GHA, a hard type green string type came in on clam. Ulva came in on snails I’m pretty sure. The anchored stuff I had before on dry rock but thought I’d gotten it all out, evidently not.

I have heard of people using Vibrant, Its a hit or miss product in my opinion

 

[brandon429]

that's amazing resilience, I wish you had a removable portion with that target you could dig way deeper, until that model spot doesn't grow back. not that this helps your detailed areas in a large tank agreed, but just to see how deep it's rooting. 35% perioxide tends to melt most rhodophyta into neutrality but that's in the air type work, your cleaning at least removes the feed and detritus that cycles in varying invaders, it will help overall.

we think lots of invaders work independently from nutrients in the tank, meaning if they show up and send a root that's all it takes. sometimes lucky grazers like large turbo snails w take on rhodophyta / those types of red growths

 

[Alexreefer]

Thanks for reply, that’s why I did the rip clean and cleaned every snail shell. Toothbrush scrubbing won’t spread this stuff?

I scrub every rock and then begin to siphon out water and floating debris. Also having a herbivous fish might help. How big is your tank?

 

[Alexreefer]

Oh got it. 34 Gals. So a tang is out of the option. I guess snails and urchin are the only choice, They can do very good against that algae as long as they find it. Some crabs might eat gha as well

 

[DHill6]

Oh got it. 34 Gals. So a tang is out of the option. I guess snails and urchin are the only choice, They can do very good against that algae as long as they find it. Some crabs might eat gha as well

I have an urchin, red banded trochius and astrea snails. Staying away from crabs, will steal food from LPS.

 

[DHill6]

that's amazing resilience, I wish you had a removable portion with that target you could dig way deeper, until that model spot doesn't grow back. not that this helps your detailed areas in a large tank agreed, but just to see how deep it's rooting. 35% perioxide tends to melt most rhodophyta into neutrality but that's in the air type work, your cleaning at least removes the feed and detritus that cycles in varying invaders, it will help overall.

we think lots of invaders work independently from nutrients in the tank, meaning if they show up and send a root that's all it takes. sometimes lucky grazers like large turbo snails w take on rhodophyta / those types of red growths

This is on the silicone and I see a little on 2 of the 20 snail shells.

 

[Katrina71]

I'd add crabs.

 

[brandon429]

when Jon M ran his rip clean he was doing it to rid waste from leftover dinos treatments, they dont really kill off algae/that has to be modeled separately from the cleaning event. it'll never be harmful to deep clean, but that runs independent from anchored invader cures.

once you try a few options if it persists, many species of R are persistent, then the only way I know to make headway is to model working action on a small section of removable rock and then upscale it.

you can try actions that are beyond topical rasping, something deeper, like a dremel wheel lol but just to check in a small area for least invasive dive it takes to really dislodge that stuff. at least knowing its characters and strength on a small section of example rock is easy, its better than full tank guessing about what might work

35% peroxide as an external only treatment combined with a deeper rasp test would kill it, but that stuff is dangerous. requires eye protection, dont store in home where children are/dump it out after use.

 

[DHill6]

I have heard of people using Vibrant, Its a hit or miss product in my opinion

I tried that once, corals weren’t happy.

I'd add crabs.

with scolys and acans?

 

[DHill6]

when Jon M ran his rip clean he was doing it to rid waste from leftover dinos treatments, they dont really kill off algae/that has to be modeled separately from the cleaning event. it'll never be harmful to deep clean, but that runs independent from anchored invader cures.

once you try a few options if it persists, many species of R are persistent, then the only way I know to make headway is to model working action on a small section of removable rock and then upscale it.

you can try actions that are beyond topical rasping, something deeper, like a dremel wheel lol but just to check in a small area for least invasive dive it takes to really dislodge that stuff. at least knowing its characters and strength on a small section of example rock is easy, its better than full tank guessing about what might work

35% peroxide as an external only treatment combined with a deeper rasp test would kill it, but that stuff is dangerous. requires eye protection, dont store in home where children are/dump it out after use.

It’s on the bottom silicone and 2 snail shells. I had it before on rock which I dremeled the entire top layer off of. Then I went with a different easier scape, that rock has been gone awhile. This stuff was under the GHA in that spot.

 

[Alexreefer]

Some algae can be very stubborn and not go away. I think frequent trimming (scrapping and brushing) of the algae to keep it at bay here.

 

[Katrina71]

I think leaving crabs out, you're missing part of the cuc layer. Never had an issue with coral going hungry because of a crab.

 

[DHill6]

I managed to chip a piece of it off with tweezers, it seems to be in two different areas along silicone which is covered in
Coralline. Also looks to be ulva in with it. Crazy stuff.