All for reef doseing question

[Fredrxn]

Hello guys I just started doseing all for reef last night 5 ml daily…I Noticed some of my corals are less happy…is this normal do the corals need to Adjust to it?….also my alk drops about 2 dkh weekly…so just got apex dos pumps…I have about 25 larger frags. tank is 65 gallons…I do weekly water changes 10 gallons do I even need to dose all for the reef? Should just dose alk? What do u guys Recommend I should be Doseing…thanks tank has a mixed of lps and soft corals

 

[Fish Think Pink]

Hello guys I just started doseing all for reef last night 5 ml daily…I Noticed some of my corals are less happy…is this normal do the corals need to Adjust to it?….also my alk drops about 2 dkh weekly…so just got apex dos pumps…I have about 25 larger frags. tank is 65 gallons…I do weekly water changes 10 gallons do I even need to dose all for the reef? Should just dose alk? What do u guys Recommend I should be Doseing…thanks tank has a mixed of lps and soft corals

If it is only your alk dropping, vote just dose alk.

What is All for Reef doing to your other water parameters?

 

[Fredrxn]

If it is only your alk dropping, vote just dose alk.

What is All for Reef doing to your other water parameters?

My calcium has not changed since doseing calcium 420 same with mag 1288
I think my mag is low

if I only dose alk can I dose it bye it self or do I have to dose cal to I have esp b ionic alk and cal dose I have to dose both since it’s 2 part?

 

[brmc1985]

Hello guys I just started doseing all for reef last night 5 ml daily…I Noticed some of my corals are less happy…is this normal do the corals need to Adjust to it?….also my alk drops about 2 dkh weekly…so just got apex dos pumps…I have about 25 larger frags. tank is 65 gallons…I do weekly water changes 10 gallons do I even need to dose all for the reef? Should just dose alk? What do u guys Recommend I should be Doseing…thanks tank has a mixed of lps and soft corals

I would say either dose AFR or do water changes. What are your NO3 and PO4?

 

[Fredrxn]

I would say either dose AFR or do water changes. What are your NO3 and PO4?

5 nitrate 0.05 po4

 

[brmc1985]

5 nitrate 0.05 po4

You may want to just run AFR for a couple weeks and see what happens to your NO3 and PO4. If they stay roughly the same I would hold back on water changes since AFR has trace elements. AFR should be used to maintain yours big 3. So you could bump up your MG over the course of the same month up to 1350 or so

 

[Fredrxn]

You may want to just run AFR for a couple weeks and see what happens to your NO3 and PO4. If they stay roughly the same I would hold back on water changes since AFR has trace elements. AFR should be used to maintain yours big 3. So you could bump up your MG over the course of the same month up to 1350 or so

Is normal for corals to To react negatively wen doseing afr. doseing 5ml daily alk is still dropping ..my apex dos is doseing 0.04 Every 2 hours

 

[brmc1985]

Is normal for corals to To react negatively wen doseing afr. doseing 5ml daily alk is still dropping ..my apex dos is doseing 0.04 Every 2 hours

It’s a change to the reef so the corals could be reacting to it. You also have to know that AFR is not instant like the two parts. It has to be broken down before it becomes usable alk. There’s something like. 24-48 hour lag time after you dose it to when it is available for corals and to be tested. The corals could be reacting to a drop in alk due to this lag time.

 

[Fish Think Pink]

My calcium has not changed since doseing calcium 420 same with mag 1288
I think my mag is low

if I only dose alk can I dose it bye it self or do I have to dose cal to I have esp b ionic alk and cal dose I have to dose both since it’s 2 part?

Ran into same thing with needing more alk than calc so instead of B Ionic two part, we got an alk that helps us keep up my pH, too - using Frank's Brew Alk daily as we drop 1 daily - manufacturer is same guy that makes F Aiptasia (now in pink): https://www.franks-tanks.com/ We mix up the pouch into a gallon jug and dose a bit each day into our sump (one day we'll automate dosing)

We also dose mag using B Ionic product, but mag doesn't get consumed as fast as alk

Keep watching how your parameters trend and you'll dial in what your tank needs

Hear great things about All for Reef, but I just need alk daily and mag every once in while - everyone is different

 

[brmc1985]

Ran into same thing with needing more alk than calc so instead of B Ionic two part, we got an alk that helps us keep up my pH, too - using Frank's Brew Alk daily as we drop 1 daily - manufacturer is same guy that makes F Aiptasia (now in pink): https://www.franks-tanks.com/ We mix up the pouch into a gallon jug and dose a bit each day into our sump (one day we'll automate dosing)

We also dose mag using B Ionic product, but mag doesn't get consumed as fast as alk

Keep watching how your parameters trend and you'll dial in what your tank needs

Hear great things about All for Reef, but I just need alk daily and mag every once in while - everyone is different

AFR is balanced. So it’s in the proportions that keeps alk, calc and mg stable. The corals use them at the same rate. So when you dose AFR the values stay in the same ratio.

 

[Fredrxn]

AFR is balanced. So it’s in the proportions that keeps alk, calc and mg stable. The corals use them at the same rate. So when you dose AFR the values stay in the same ratio.

Ok

 

[brmc1985]

Ok

Like everything in reefing it’s a process and takes time. Keep switching to AFR if that is where you want your tank to be. I like it because it’s easy to dose and has all the trace elements and has eliminated water changes for me.

 

[Fredrxn]

Like everything in reefing it’s a process and takes time. Keep switching to AFR if that is where you want your tank to be. I like it because it’s easy to dose and has all the trace elements and has eliminated water changes for me.

Is 5 ml enough for 65 gallon tank before rock…can u overdose trace elements? I only have like 25 frags in the tank right now lps zoas gsp

 

[Spare time]

Is 5 ml enough for 65 gallon tank before rock…can u overdose trace elements? I only have like 25 frags in the tank right now lps zoas gsp

For reference, I dose 60-70ish ml in my 75 gallon a day (pretty heavily stocked with corals). A 2KH drop a week is 100% going to need more than 5ml a day. 2KH is a sign that you are having a lot of growth in the tank.

 

[brmc1985]

Is 5 ml enough for 65 gallon tank before rock…can u overdose trace elements? I only have like 25 frags in the tank right now lps zoas gsp

AFR is balanced. It’s meant to have ratios of all the major and minor elements that corals use. So in theory you can’t actually overdose AFR in terms of one element per se.

 

[Fredrxn]

AFR is balanced. It’s meant to have ratios of all the major and minor elements that corals use. So in theory you can’t actually overdose AFR in terms of one element per se.

Ok thanks

 

[Fredrxn]

For reference, I dose 60-70ish ml in my 75 gallon a day (pretty heavily stocked with corals). A 2KH drop a week is 100% going to need more than 5ml a day. 2KH is a sign that you are having a lot of growth in the tank.

Ok

 

[design.maddie]

I'll give my layout just for peace of mind.

200l tank dosing 1ml/10l

I was instructed to have it doser all at once 45 minutes before lights. I started at half the strength that I state and walked my way up to where I am at right now. It took between 2-5 weeks to balance out and I felt like I forgot how to use my test kits. Nothing was moving like I expected. I was again instructed to really only focus on weekly fluctuations. My Alk is locked at 8.9 Cal is 430 and Mag is 1360.

 

[Fredrxn]

I'll give my layout just for peace of mind.

200l tank dosing 1ml/10l

I was instructed to have it doser all at once 45 minutes before lights. I started at half the strength that I state and walked my way up to where I am at right now. It took between 2-5 weeks to balance out and I felt like I forgot how to use my test kits. Nothing was moving like I expected. I was again instructed to really only focus on weekly fluctuations. My Alk is locked at 8.9 Cal is 430 and Mag is 1360.

Ok

 

[vetteguy53081]

Hello guys I just started doseing all for reef last night 5 ml daily…I Noticed some of my corals are less happy…is this normal do the corals need to Adjust to it?….also my alk drops about 2 dkh weekly…so just got apex dos pumps…I have about 25 larger frags. tank is 65 gallons…I do weekly water changes 10 gallons do I even need to dose all for the reef? Should just dose alk? What do u guys Recommend I should be Doseing…thanks tank has a mixed of lps and soft corals

Cut it in half of recommended. I too find this solution very potent. Also add to sump- Not direct to tank