Amino acids

From what I've read, aminos are fairly cheap to make. And can be made from many different things. But from brand to brand it's all about concentration and what additional things they add.

But I use Brightwell. I had cyano issues at first, but I was overdosing. I didn't realize how concentrated it was. Going slow is key.
 
It’s part of seachem’s aquavitro line “fuel”. Not “reef bio fuel” which brightwells carbon source for microbacter 7 I’m aging accidents happen lol. I’ve never notice any negative in terms my nutrient levels using even up to 4x a week when my tank was packed with colonies.

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Thanks
 
I use acro power almost daily on my 120 mix reef, abs have been for about 2 years now. Definitely brought out some color on my sps, as well as some of the other corals. I also started using aquaforest life source about once every 4-6 weeks. Corals seem to love it and I have not noticed any flux in my levels. I also feed fish minimal so tend to not have a lot of level to start with.

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Yeah me feeding minimally was what caused my issue to begin with.
 
Used a few over the year. No difference wether I was adding them or not. Put me on the side that it does not matter if you dose them or not.
Interesting, I might give it a shot anyway. Did you see any negatives at all? Can I ask what size system and how much you dosed?
 
I use Brightwell amino
 
I use the zeovit 4 part coral system.
Its minor and trace elements plus am amino. I also dose sponge power and acro glow. I do this at half the recommended dosage once a week on the 4 part and every 3 days on the other 2.
 
From what I've read, aminos are fairly cheap to make. And can be made from many different things. But from brand to brand it's all about concentration and what additional things they add.

But I use Brightwell. I had cyano issues at first, but I was overdosing. I didn't realize how concentrated it was. Going slow is key.
Are you dosing the amount in the directions?
 
I use the zeovit 4 part coral system.
Its minor and trace elements plus am amino. I also dose sponge power and acro glow. I do this at half the recommended dosage once a week on the 4 part and every 3 days on the other 2.
You reminded me about my zeo supplements, because I noticed a big difference with the overall contrast before/after using amino’s in combination. I don’t not run uln/low nutrients.

I dose following
Daily
2.5 ml’s flatworm stop
2.5 ml’s coral booster
2 drops of sponge power
-The FW stop/booster have yielded significant improvements in vitality like PE within the first few doses is exceptional andsecondly color. I stopped for a while needless to say it will be part of my daily morning routine lol. Just to clarify I don’t have AEFW’s! Awhile back a good friend and I were shooting the breeze he spoke
highly of both. In addition to that positive feedback online sealed the deal.
2 drops sponge power

MWF
Zeobak 3 drops
Zeofood 7 3 drops
*Along with 12ml’s fuel
 
Are you dosing the amount in the directions?

The directions are pretty vauge, tbh.

One capful (5ml) target feed upstream.

It has no reference to sizeof tank. i was adding 5 drops to a 15g AIO tank twice a week. Reduced that to 1 drop a week. I might start adding more until i see cyano dust show up again then reduce to the level my tank can actually use. I'm obviously broadcasting cause its one drop but i wonder about diluting it and target feeding still. Brightwell doesn't have size directions but it says to target feed.

How do you dose your aminos?
 
I haven't started yet but here's what it says to do from the BRS product page.


Shake product well before using. Turn protein skimmer and other forms of mechanical filtration off prior to adding CoralAminō to aquaria, and allow 10 - 15 minutes after use before resuming operation of filtration.

Target Feeding (recommended): Pour 1 ml (~20 drops) into a small container and suck a portion into feeding device, then slowly discharge contents 2 - 4” upstream of target organism(s). Repeat these steps as deemed necessary. Do not place the glass dropper directly into aquarium water unless you plan to thoroughly rinse it (inside and outside) with fresh water before placing dropper back into bottle; failure to do so will contaminate the product and encourage it to decompose.

Broadcast Feeding: Add up to 1 ml per 50 gallons of water in an area of rapid water movement daily for the first four weeks of use.
 
I haven't started yet but here's what it says to do from the BRS product page.


Shake product well before using. Turn protein skimmer and other forms of mechanical filtration off prior to adding CoralAminō to aquaria, and allow 10 - 15 minutes after use before resuming operation of filtration.

Target Feeding (recommended): Pour 1 ml (~20 drops) into a small container and suck a portion into feeding device, then slowly discharge contents 2 - 4” upstream of target organism(s). Repeat these steps as deemed necessary. Do not place the glass dropper directly into aquarium water unless you plan to thoroughly rinse it (inside and outside) with fresh water before placing dropper back into bottle; failure to do so will contaminate the product and encourage it to decompose.

Broadcast Feeding: Add up to 1 ml per 50 gallons of water in an area of rapid water movement daily for the first four weeks of use.

I definitely remember that now, but only the first line is printed on the bottle. I figured that's where I got 4-5 drops but it was still a bit much. It's always hard to downsize doses for a nano.
 
In my experience they seem to make a different in ULNS and less so (or not at all) in systems with higher levels of no3 and po4. Totally anecdotal though.
 
In my experience they seem to make a different in ULNS and less so (or not at all) in systems with higher levels of no3 and po4. Totally anecdotal though.
How much of a difference does it make with using Brightwell vs acro power with the po4 and no3?
 
How much of a difference does it make with using Brightwell vs acro power with the po4 and no3?

I have no idea. I'm not sure to what extent they raise Po3 and No4 but I suspect they are taken up as an alternative to those nutrients in their absence. I have used acro-power in a nutrient starved tank and I believe it improved colouration and in some cases slowed down mortality. I have never used Brightwell and am currently using a house brand amino mix from an LFS.
 
I have no idea. I'm not sure to what extent they raise Po3 and No4 but I suspect they are taken up as an alternative to those nutrients in their absence. I have used acro-power in a nutrient starved tank and I believe it improved colouration and in some cases slowed down mortality. I have never used Brightwell and am currently using a house brand amino mix from an LFS.
I am going to be doing the Brightwell as I’ve already used the one I got in the free sample
From WWC monthly subscription. I like it and WEC uses it, so it can’t be that bad. I curious to know how much it raises the po4 in a tank if any at all. I’m also curious to know how to make your own amino acids for reef tanks. What does the fish store use for it?
 
According to the container the ingredients are -

Contains: Alanine, Arginine, Aspartate, Cystine, Glutamate, Glycine, Isoleucine, Leucine, Valine, Tryptophan, Lysine, Methionine, Histidine, Proline, Serine, Tryosine, Phenylalanine, Threonine.

No Preservatives – does not contain Phosphate based preservative. 50g net weight

The store sells a lot of house brand 2 part ingredients, aminos, potassium and iron supplement etc. They also do a lot of professional reef tank maintenance and use their own brand for that.

This is what they say on their website -

The role of 100% Reef Safe Amino Acids in coral feeding and growth

Amino Acids are quickly becoming one of the most popular additives to any serious reef keeper's arsenal. There are many different reasons why they are being used and many reasons why I suggest everyone should use them. Many vitamins and proteins are included in one easy dosing supplement to provide your corals with the much needed elements they would not otherwise get in a closed environment.

In Nature corals will receive these proteins via plankton, micro plankton or even bacterial plankton. However in a closed aquarium environment these are normally absent. Zooxanthellae which live symbiotically in many corals "excrete" these acids which in turn feed the coral along with many other substances. In most aquariums the activity of these symbiotic algae’s are greatly reduced in which the corals are only "Surviving" and not "Thriving".

Indirect and direct feeding's are generally not the best method to approach feeding your corals as it generally results in increased nutrient levels such as phosphates and nitrates. This is where the Amino acids come in handy. By dosing high quality products such as 100% Reef Safe Amino Acid Supplement, you are introducing the correct proportions of amino acids found in coral skeletons that is helping to create the natural living conditions found in a wild living coral reef.

Feeding

Similar to other animals, amino acids play important roles in the lives of corals being essential to enzyme production, tissue growth and skeleton formation. In addition, amino acids are known to affect coral feeding behaviour. After the addition of frozen or live feeds to an aquarium, corals are often observed to extend their tentacles, a phenomenon which may be attributed to amino acids. Studies have found the addition of the amino acids glycine, alanine or glutamate to the water resulted in opening of the mouth, tentacle extension, swelling of tissue and expulsion of digestive filaments for many scleractinian corals ie; those with a skeletal structure. Thus, these amino acids elicit the same feeding response as when zooplankton is supplied. It is possible that corals have receptors which recognize organic compounds, including amino acids. This ability to detect specific chemical compounds, known as chemotaxis, may allow coral polyps to recognize zooplankton and prepare for prey capture.

Skeletal growth

The important role of amino acids in the growth of living organisms is well-documented, and scleractinian corals are no exception. Not only do corals require amino acids to build protein for tissue growth, they also need these for synthesis of a so-called organic matrix. This organic matrix is a framework of proteins, polysaccharides, and glycosaminoglycan’s, lipids and chitin, and is essential to bio mineralisation. In many corals, it forms a physical link between soft tissue and the skeleton, regulates and accelerates calcium carbonate deposition in the skeleton (calcification), providing strength. The building blocks of the organic matrix are secreted by coral cells into the skeleton.

Recommended Dosage: ½ to 1 level scoop (please note no scoop included in refill) per 500lt of aquarium water. Mix the required amount of Amino Acid Protein Supplement in a container, let stand for 1 hour then slowly add to the aquarium. Generally we recommend adding coral food to the same mixture for better absorption by the corals. Dose 1-2 times a week.

Given this is a protein product your skimmer may produce excessive skimmate with the addition of this supplement to your tank, many turn their skimmer off for half an hour to an hour to avoid skimming out the product. Also due to amino acids being proteins its best to be prepared fresh for each dose.
 
According to the container the ingredients are -

Contains: Alanine, Arginine, Aspartate, Cystine, Glutamate, Glycine, Isoleucine, Leucine, Valine, Tryptophan, Lysine, Methionine, Histidine, Proline, Serine, Tryosine, Phenylalanine, Threonine.

No Preservatives – does not contain Phosphate based preservative. 50g net weight

The store sells a lot of house brand 2 part ingredients, aminos, potassium and iron supplement etc. They also do a lot of professional reef tank maintenance and use their own brand for that.

This is what they say on their website -

The role of 100% Reef Safe Amino Acids in coral feeding and growth

Amino Acids are quickly becoming one of the most popular additives to any serious reef keeper's arsenal. There are many different reasons why they are being used and many reasons why I suggest everyone should use them. Many vitamins and proteins are included in one easy dosing supplement to provide your corals with the much needed elements they would not otherwise get in a closed environment.

In Nature corals will receive these proteins via plankton, micro plankton or even bacterial plankton. However in a closed aquarium environment these are normally absent. Zooxanthellae which live symbiotically in many corals "excrete" these acids which in turn feed the coral along with many other substances. In most aquariums the activity of these symbiotic algae’s are greatly reduced in which the corals are only "Surviving" and not "Thriving".

Indirect and direct feeding's are generally not the best method to approach feeding your corals as it generally results in increased nutrient levels such as phosphates and nitrates. This is where the Amino acids come in handy. By dosing high quality products such as 100% Reef Safe Amino Acid Supplement, you are introducing the correct proportions of amino acids found in coral skeletons that is helping to create the natural living conditions found in a wild living coral reef.

Feeding

Similar to other animals, amino acids play important roles in the lives of corals being essential to enzyme production, tissue growth and skeleton formation. In addition, amino acids are known to affect coral feeding behaviour. After the addition of frozen or live feeds to an aquarium, corals are often observed to extend their tentacles, a phenomenon which may be attributed to amino acids. Studies have found the addition of the amino acids glycine, alanine or glutamate to the water resulted in opening of the mouth, tentacle extension, swelling of tissue and expulsion of digestive filaments for many scleractinian corals ie; those with a skeletal structure. Thus, these amino acids elicit the same feeding response as when zooplankton is supplied. It is possible that corals have receptors which recognize organic compounds, including amino acids. This ability to detect specific chemical compounds, known as chemotaxis, may allow coral polyps to recognize zooplankton and prepare for prey capture.

Skeletal growth

The important role of amino acids in the growth of living organisms is well-documented, and scleractinian corals are no exception. Not only do corals require amino acids to build protein for tissue growth, they also need these for synthesis of a so-called organic matrix. This organic matrix is a framework of proteins, polysaccharides, and glycosaminoglycan’s, lipids and chitin, and is essential to bio mineralisation. In many corals, it forms a physical link between soft tissue and the skeleton, regulates and accelerates calcium carbonate deposition in the skeleton (calcification), providing strength. The building blocks of the organic matrix are secreted by coral cells into the skeleton.

Recommended Dosage: ½ to 1 level scoop (please note no scoop included in refill) per 500lt of aquarium water. Mix the required amount of Amino Acid Protein Supplement in a container, let stand for 1 hour then slowly add to the aquarium. Generally we recommend adding coral food to the same mixture for better absorption by the corals. Dose 1-2 times a week.

Given this is a protein product your skimmer may produce excessive skimmate with the addition of this supplement to your tank, many turn their skimmer off for half an hour to an hour to avoid skimming out the product. Also due to amino acids being proteins its best to be prepared fresh for each dose.
Where is this lps? And can you share their website? I’m curious to know more about it
 
My corals were bleaching, then I started using Red Sea A & B and my corals got there color back. Now Iam using Brightwells Amino acids and it seems to do well. But Brightwells bottles don’t last too long.(approximately 2 weeks for a 65 gallon tank

I will be trying something called AquaForest growth boost amino acids in a powder form. Iam gonna see how that product works. I think in powder form amino acids will last a lot longer.
 

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