Ammonia spike and two dead snails?!

[blaxsun]

Reading is now between 0.4 and 0.8.
So I guess crisis averted?!
Tomorrow things should look even better

I would still recommend a small bottle of Seachem AmGuard for future emergencies. It works fast and it works great. Glad to hear levels are slowly returning to normal.

 

[Inversus]

I would still recommend a small bottle of Seachem AmGuard for future emergencies. It works fast and it works great. Glad to hear levels are slowly returning to normal.

I ordered it with the filter socks

Thanks again @everyone for the help!

 

[Dburr1014]

Reading is now between 0.4 and 0.8.
So I guess crisis averted?!
Tomorrow things should look even better

Looking good, congrats

 

[Inversus]

Okay so I testet again and it looks like ammonia rised again. It looks something between 0.8 and 1.2
what the heck is going on

 

[Inversus]

Just for reference I checked the rodi water with the ammonia testkit and its zero. So the test itself seems to be valid

 

[blaxsun]

Okay so I testet again and it looks like ammonia rised again. It looks something between 0.8 and 1.2
what the heck is going on

Is there anything else that may have died that you can't account for? As we alluded to a page or so back, some of us suspect the tank may not have properly cycled - and if so, there isn't enough of a biological filter to help convert ammonia to nitrites to nitrates.

Cut back on your feeding if you haven't already and add that AmGuard when it arrives. Do you have any additional bacteria you can supplement the tank with, ie: Microbacter7 for example?

 

[Inversus]

Is there anything else that may have died that you can't account for? As we alluded to a page or so back, some of us suspect the tank may not have properly cycled - and if so, there isn't enough of a biological filter to help convert ammonia to nitrites to nitrates.

Cut back on your feeding if you haven't already and add that AmGuard when it arrives. Do you have any additional bacteria you can supplement the tank with, ie: Microbacter7 for example?

I only have Nopox and Red sea kh coralline gro.
That probably wouldnt help right?

The only thing missing is one hermit crab, no idea where that little fella is, but I doubt that He is causing the ammonia if hes liying some where dead.

Everyone else seems to be fine so far

Edit:
I have a Aquarium dealer nearby but only for freshwater. I try to get to him today and Look if He has something for ammonia. Shouldnt matter what Kind of water right? Seachem seems to be for both fresh and saltwater

 

[blaxsun]

There's only one type of Seachem AmGuard, so if he has it that should work.

 

[Inversus]

There's only one type of Seachem AmGuard, so if he has it that should work.

I doubt that he has exactly this brand (but not sure). But some other brand that fights ammonia might be more realistic. Before I would buy it I will google it, but knowing before would be best. I think he has a lot of JBL stuff.

I googled a bit and JBL has "Detoxol" that fights NH3 among other things and is labeld as fresh and saltwater ready. That should do it or?
JBL Clynol also list that it fights ammonia
He opens in 3 hours and I will be there exactly then

 

[blaxsun]

I use a bunch of Seachem products, so I'm most familiar with those. AmGuard detoxifies ammonia as opposed to eliminating it outright - that's its biggest selling point to me.

 

[Inversus]

I use a bunch of Seachem products, so I'm most familiar with those. AmGuard detoxifies ammonia as opposed to eliminating it outright - that's its biggest selling point to me.

If he has Seachem I will definitely buy this.
JBL Detoxol describtion:

With JBL Detoxol JBL’s research department has developed a new product which immediately converts ammonium and ammonia into a non-toxic compound (amine)

So it should be the same as seachem right?

 

[blaxsun]

If he has Seachem I will definitely buy this.
JBL Detoxol describtion:

With JBL Detoxol JBL’s research department has developed a new product which immediately converts ammonium and ammonia into a non-toxic compound (amine)

So it should be the same as seachem right?

I honestly couldn't say coming from a freshwater store. I've used the Seachem and it works, and I generally only try to recommend products I've personally used or have been endorsed by other experienced reefers.

 

[Inversus]

I honestly couldn't say coming from a freshwater store. I've used the Seachem and it works, and I generally only try to recommend products I've personally used or have been endorsed by other experienced reefers.

Hm understandable.
I found nothing (forum threads or similar) regarding jbl detoxol and reef tanks.
It has 200 reviews on amazon.de but not a single one mentions seawater or ammonia.

Question is... Whats the lesser evil?
Wait two days for seachem to arrive or dose this JBL stuff and hope for the best?

 

[blaxsun]

Question is... Whats the lesser evil?
Wait two days for seachem to arrive or dose this JBL stuff and hope for the best?

It's German (+), it states for saltwater use (+) and it indicates ammonia NH3 (+), so I'd say there's a better than even chance it will work. You've got limited options at this point, so I think it will do what you need it to. And you need to get that ammonia down.

Given your scenario, if I were in your flippers I'd try the JBL.

 

[Inversus]

It's German (+), it states for saltwater use (+) and it indicates ammonia NH3 (+), so I'd say there's a better than even chance it will work. You've got limited options at this point, so I think it will do what you need it to. And you need to get that ammonia down.

Given your scenario, if I were in your flippers I'd try the JBL.

Assuming the store has it and I can successful battle ammonia. What then?
You and some other mentioned that the tank might be not fully cycled. Should I do something beside adding the filtersocks (which are on the way)? Do I have to dose something or do something else to get the cycle done except for waiting?

 

[Dburr1014]

I doubt that he has exactly this brand (but not sure). But some other brand that fights ammonia might be more realistic. Before I would buy it I will google it, but knowing before would be best. I think he has a lot of JBL stuff.

I googled a bit and JBL has "Detoxol" that fights NH3 among other things and is labeld as fresh and saltwater ready. That should do it or?
JBL Clynol also list that it fights ammonia
He opens in 3 hours and I will be there exactly then

Just know that if you dump ammonia guard in, your test kit will still detect ammonia.

 

[homer1475]

You have 2 clowns living in there with 0 issues. You have other inverts living in there with 0 issues. You started cycling 2 months ago, your tank is cycled.

You do not have 1.2ppm ammonia. The fish would be fine, but your other inverts would be dying if ammonia was truly that high. Something is throwing the kit off, get a different kit just to verify. Or when you go to the LFS, have them test it.

Throw the test kit away and quit testing for ammonia. Or get a another test kit to confirm.

Your worrying over nothing, and going to add a bunch of carp thats not needed.

 

[blaxsun]

The Red Sea kits are fairly reliable, so while I wouldn't necessarily pitch it - an alternate testing kit wouldn't be a bad idea, either to rule that out.

 

[homer1475]

I don't care how reliable a test kit is SUPPOSED to be, they all can have issues(just look at all the issues people have with the hanna kits, which IMO are the simplest test kits to use).

He has livestock living and acting fine. There is no way he even remotely has 1.2ppm ammonia. Livestock, specially inverts would be dying en-masse if ammonia levels were truly 1.2ppm.

Get another test kit. Even API will work for validity.

 

[Garf]

Assuming the store has it and I can successful battle ammonia. What then?
You and some other mentioned that the tank might be not fully cycled. Should I do something beside adding the filtersocks (which are on the way)? Do I have to dose something or do something else to get the cycle done except for waiting?

The Reef Energy stuff your adding is sugars and amino acids, I’m guessing this is screwing with your test. You don’t need it. Fish food, light, heat and good water (including aeration) that's all.