And the nasty algae bloom begins!!!

Just put Chaeto in my Sump this week to help. My nitrates are 5 and phosates are .025, a little high there.

I wish my nitrates were that low. Just did a test today and they're running about 80ppm.

I put Chaeto in last week thinking that it would lower the nitrates but they've actually increased over the last week but my ammonia and nitrites are zero.
 
I dont mean to seem obtuse, but what bloom? All I see is a couple pics of sterile rock without algae to even sustain a single snail longterm. When I start a new system I like to feed enough to see the beginnings of green film and turf algaes within a week or so. Then a few weeks later its time to add clean up crew. By then there is actually a stable algal bed for them to graze on. Keeping a tank sterile is a surefire way to end up with a massive dino outbreak. You have to grow in an ugly algae phase in order to build your microflora and fauna populations IMO. Best of luck!

I couldn’t agree more. That rock in the original post is about as clean and sterile as rock can be. I don’t see a spec of nasty on there. And the “nice and white” phrase lends me to believe there’s a misunderstanding going on about what rock should look like in a thriving tank. White rock = dead rock. The whiter it is, the more biologically poor and unstable the tank is.

Yes...rock covered on green hair, bryopsos, and bubble algae isn’t the ultimate goal, but even those unattractive algae do serve a purpose and if you approach the tank correctly they’ll be gone on their own really.

This is an excellent example of super healthy rock that if you filled the tank with this, you’d have as stable and mature of a biofilter as you can imagine. Note, not a spec of white on it

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You folks with new tanks worrying you’re going to lose the pearly white look to your rocks....good, that is the idea
 
It’s just the ugly stage right now, I remember going thru it with my little 20 gallon tank.
 
I couldn’t agree more. That rock in the original post is about as clean and sterile as rock can be. I don’t see a spec of nasty on there. And the “nice and white” phrase lends me to believe there’s a misunderstanding going on about what rock should look like in a thriving tank. White rock = dead rock. The whiter it is, the more biologically poor and unstable the tank is.

Yes...rock covered on green hair, bryopsos, and bubble algae isn’t the ultimate goal, but even those unattractive algae do serve a purpose and if you approach the tank correctly they’ll be gone on their own really.

This is an excellent example of super healthy rock that if you filled the tank with this, you’d have as stable and mature of a biofilter as you can imagine. Note, not a spec of white on it

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You folks with new tanks worrying you’re going to lose the pearly white look to your rocks....good, that is the idea
Yup, it's hard to explain to people knew to the hobby. My clients freak out when their white sterile build turns into a green flowing mess within few weeks of me installing the tank. And sure enough a few weeks after the clean up crew is added, things stabilize, coralline begins to grow, and I start putting frags into the tank that absolutely love the fact that there's nitrates/phos and plenty of copepods to snack on every night.
 
Your tank looks completely normal. It's just part of the young tank phase. Diatoms and algae are normal. The white rock will not stay white.
 
I couldn’t agree more. That rock in the original post is about as clean and sterile as rock can be. I don’t see a spec of nasty on there. And the “nice and white” phrase lends me to believe there’s a misunderstanding going on about what rock should look like in a thriving tank. White rock = dead rock. The whiter it is, the more biologically poor and unstable the tank is.

Yes...rock covered on green hair, bryopsos, and bubble algae isn’t the ultimate goal, but even those unattractive algae do serve a purpose and if you approach the tank correctly they’ll be gone on their own really.

This is an excellent example of super healthy rock that if you filled the tank with this, you’d have as stable and mature of a biofilter as you can imagine. Note, not a spec of white on it

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You folks with new tanks worrying you’re going to lose the pearly white look to your rocks....good, that is the idea
That's so funny was watching a video the other day. The guy was talking about back in the 80s or whenever where reefers were taking out their rocks periodically and bleaching them back to white then wondering why their takes were always crashing lol
 
I couldn’t agree more. That rock in the original post is about as clean and sterile as rock can be. I don’t see a spec of nasty on there. And the “nice and white” phrase lends me to believe there’s a misunderstanding going on about what rock should look like in a thriving tank. White rock = dead rock. The whiter it is, the more biologically poor and unstable the tank is.

Yes...rock covered on green hair, bryopsos, and bubble algae isn’t the ultimate goal, but even those unattractive algae do serve a purpose and if you approach the tank correctly they’ll be gone on their own really.

This is an excellent example of super healthy rock that if you filled the tank with this, you’d have as stable and mature of a biofilter as you can imagine. Note, not a spec of white on it

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You folks with new tanks worrying you’re going to lose the pearly white look to your rocks....good, that is the idea

@Bpb

Thank you for the lesson on I will never see pearly white rocks again.

When I initially started this post I was fully expecting the brown algae and everything I was just making a comment in reference to my cycling process. However I did not know about the rock never going back to white again unless it's dead.

So again thank you for the lesson. Because of your information In a few weeks I Will Not freak out because my rocks aren't White again.

Even though it makes the tank look like it's not being taken care of, it's kind of cool seeing the changes in a cycle of a tank.

If you don't mind answering another question, should I do any kind of a water change? I haven't done one of those yet. My ammonia and nitrite are zero my nitrates are running about 80. I do have Chaet in the sump but it's just possibly a softball-size with what appears to be microbubbles coming out of it.
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@Bpb

Thank you for the lesson on I will never see pearly white rocks again.

When I initially started this post I was fully expecting the brown algae and everything I was just making a comment in reference to my cycling process. However I did not know about the rock never going back to white again unless it's dead.

So again thank you for the lesson. Because of your information In a few weeks I Will Not freak out because my rocks aren't White again.

Even though it makes the tank look like it's not being taken care of, it's kind of cool seeing the changes in a cycle of a tank.

If you don't mind answering another question, should I do any kind of a water change? I haven't done one of those yet. My ammonia and nitrite are zero my nitrates are running about 80. I do have Chaet in the sump but it's just possibly a softball-size with what appears to be microbubbles coming out of it.
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Happy to help! Didn’t mean to come off as crass in my post. So if I did, apologies.

You appear to be using a pretty powerful light on that chaeto yes? I’d just keep pruning it often. Grow as much as you can. A water change won’t hurt, but in a new tank like that it’ll be a short lived fix. I would actually consider picking up a box of prodibio biodigest vials to assist in getting a rich bacterial diversity. That’ll pay dividends. Look into vodka dosing simultaneously. It’s a very easy way to dial in nitrates. I am able to keep mine at 5-10 ppm (you can drive them down to zero if you’re not careful, that’s bad). It’s easy and effective and costs me about $7 every 6 months or so to control nitrate right where I want it
 
@Bpb

Thank you for the lesson on I will never see pearly white rocks again.

When I initially started this post I was fully expecting the brown algae and everything I was just making a comment in reference to my cycling process. However I did not know about the rock never going back to white again unless it's dead.

So again thank you for the lesson. Because of your information In a few weeks I Will Not freak out because my rocks aren't White again.

Even though it makes the tank look like it's not being taken care of, it's kind of cool seeing the changes in a cycle of a tank.

If you don't mind answering another question, should I do any kind of a water change? I haven't done one of those yet. My ammonia and nitrite are zero my nitrates are running about 80. I do have Chaet in the sump but it's just possibly a softball-size with what appears to be microbubbles coming out of it.
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It's definitely an exciting time in the process. Probably a tough time as well as the urge to start throwing stuff in is probably difficult to resist

If you have no ammonia or nitrite would seem the take is cycled and you can start brining down the nitrates with wc IMO
 
Just another point of view...

But, i would recommend a 50-75% water change following your cycle (if it's complete) to help give a qyick drop in those nitrates...if you are at 80ppm, then that should put you down around 25-30ppm which is manageable.

Everything I've read on new tanks say to minimize any dosing to control nutrients...as well as running GFO, etc... A young system needs to find that balance on its own for long-term. The tank is going to go through some pretty ugly things... just keep it somewhat controlled and let it still run its course.

My tank is about 5-6 months post- cycle. It's still going through some junk. I tried the chaeto early on to help control nutrients... what a mess. The stuff would grow, then die (releasing nutrients back into the system)... which would make the blooms worsen! I turned off the chaeto grow light and git rid of the cheato and my tank had been much better controlled for now. But, I'm struggling now with really low nutrients... going dinos don't get started! So, patience... and love those "dirty" rocks... they really do look better than white ones when you think that that dirt is actually cool living things taking hold in your system!

Good luck!
 
Happy to help! Didn’t mean to come off as crass in my post. So if I did, apologies.

You appear to be using a pretty powerful light on that chaeto yes? I’d just keep pruning it often. Grow as much as you can. A water change won’t hurt, but in a new tank like that it’ll be a short lived fix. I would actually consider picking up a box of prodibio biodigest vials to assist in getting a rich bacterial diversity. That’ll pay dividends. Look into vodka dosing simultaneously. It’s a very easy way to dial in nitrates. I am able to keep mine at 5-10 ppm (you can drive them down to zero if you’re not careful, that’s bad). It’s easy and effective and costs me about $7 every 6 months or so to control nitrate right where I want it

My next question might cause you to smack your head thinking I'm an idiot. When you say vodka dose do you mean like vodka the alcoholic beverage that you drink? LOL
 
Be sure to turn your chaeto every couple of days so it doesn't scorch on the side exposed directly to the light. No big deal if you get some bleached strands, just cut it off and let it grow back.
 
Be sure to turn your chaeto every couple of days so it doesn't scorch on the side exposed directly to the light. No big deal if you get some bleached strands, just cut it off and let it grow back.

The Chaeto is still small and I have a pretty good-sized refugium. So it is tumbling right now do I still need to turn it?
 
The Chaeto is still small and I have a pretty good-sized refugium. So it is tumbling right now do I still need to turn it?
Just got two balls of chaeto today. Stuff is so dense it just sank right to the bottom lol. Was hoping for some tumbling
 
The Chaeto is still small and I have a pretty good-sized refugium. So it is tumbling right now do I still need to turn it?
If it is turning all the way over, probably not.
 
don't chase zeros focus on healthy corals so that they can out compete the nuisance stuff.

pick target numbers. There is a lot of information here, but there is somewhat a general consensus as to where the big three parameters should be (calcium, alkalinity, magnesium), salinity, temperature and of course NO3, PO4. Focus on stability on those numbers, while slowly stocking your tank with your corals (which will be part of your NO3/PO4 uptake) . if your fundamentals are sound, stay the course, your healthy corals will compete with the alage for nutrients AND rock space.

Algae is part of the ecosystem. The more my corals grow and show off their amazing colors and shapes, the less I notice the jungles of uglies in my tank.
 

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