Anyone with AI Prime 16 + Mangroves?

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I currently am setting up a tank with a mounted grow light and a AI Prime 16 HD specifically for Mangroves!

Anyone with a AI Prime 16 HD and Mangroves? Wondering if I can see and potentially get emailed your preset.

Photo for interest!

mangrove22.jpeg
 
I'm in the process of setting up an AI Prime 16HD over a mangrove tank, but it's going to be on the coral side of the tank, not over the mangroves. I just use a simple LED grow bulb for the mangroves.
 
I'm in the process of setting up an AI Prime 16HD over a mangrove tank, but it's going to be on the coral side of the tank, not over the mangroves. I just use a simple LED grow bulb for the mangroves.
I have the AI Prime preset full spectrum everything really high % including the whites, greens and reds mounted on the tank. Also have a grow light from amazon on the ceiling for the mangroves. Hoping this is all more than sufficient.
 
I have the AI Prime preset full spectrum everything really high % including the whites, greens and reds mounted on the tank. Also have a grow light from amazon on the ceiling for the mangroves. Hoping this is all more than sufficient.

Sounds plenty sufficient to me. The only issues I've really seen with mangrove lighting are more commonly two weak of a light, one that isn't place high enough to light all the leaves, one that isn't full daylight spectrum (too red or too blue), and so the tree doesn't grow well, or where the light is fine but a mangrove starts to grow too close to the light and gets brown, crispy tips on its leaves.

I just went with the LED grow bulb since it seemed sufficient and was more affordable than other options. I'm on a budget and money saved there is more money for other tank goodies.

Good luck, keep us updated! I need to post some updated pics soon, I've been taking plenty, just haven't organized and added them to my thread yet. My biggest issue I think is currently temperature, it gets cold in the winter in Vermont and we don't have any heating vents upstairs, so my room is usually 5 or 6 degrees colder than downstairs, low to mid 60s, which doesn't seem to be hurting the mangroves, but growth has been relatively slow these last few months. I could try adding additional light though, I have a par meter so maybe I'll measure output and add another bulb for more coverage.
 
Sounds plenty sufficient to me. The only issues I've really seen with mangrove lighting are more commonly two weak of a light, one that isn't place high enough to light all the leaves, one that isn't full daylight spectrum (too red or too blue), and so the tree doesn't grow well, or where the light is fine but a mangrove starts to grow too close to the light and gets brown, crispy tips on its leaves.

I just went with the LED grow bulb since it seemed sufficient and was more affordable than other options. I'm on a budget and money saved there is more money for other tank goodies.

Good luck, keep us updated! I need to post some updated pics soon, I've been taking plenty, just haven't organized and added them to my thread yet. My biggest issue I think is currently temperature, it gets cold in the winter in Vermont and we don't have any heating vents upstairs, so my room is usually 5 or 6 degrees colder than downstairs, low to mid 60s, which doesn't seem to be hurting the mangroves, but growth has been relatively slow these last few months. I could try adding additional light though, I have a par meter so maybe I'll measure output and add another bulb for more coverage.
Great advice! Thank you. Once I get the mangroves situated and the tank out of the algae phase with some corals in I will feel confident to share photos. Having a bad GHA problem, but typical for me at 3 months. Feel free to share my Fluval Evo build thread in nano forums. Oh a humidifier / mister may help them grow faster during the cold dry months. Just a suggestion.
 
Looks awesome! (Way above my pay grade)

Dumb question,,, errr,, I mean "uninformed" question:
Are the mangroves going to keep growing towards "huge" but that would take forever,,, and then you have to take them out? (...or are they some pygmy species or something?)
 
Looks awesome! (Way above my pay grade)

Dumb question,,, errr,, I mean "uninformed" question:
Are the mangroves going to keep growing towards "huge" but that would take forever,,, and then you have to take them out? (...or are they some pygmy species or something?)

You can use bonsai tricks to keep them from growing really large, is my understanding. I've only been keeping mangroves for a little over a year though. They grow relatively slowly at first I think, so it's going to be a year or three before that start to get larger, more if you trim them regularly. Though they grow fast enough I don't personally recommend keeping them in a sump if it's in a cabinet under your tank.

As far as species, the most common one seen in aquarium tanks is the Red Mangrove, Rhizophora mangle.

Also, my name is Eric R, so your user name made me do a double take.
 
Following as I have propragules in my tank rooting with primes. Also nice pic of Jake Adams tank!
 
I have my AI Prime 16 HD scheduled for 10 hours ramping up to a peak of 60% intensity on all colors - around 40 watts. The hang on ceiling grow light is 150 watts full spectrum LED.


Wish me luck!! Going to get the mangroves next month when this cold weather stops to give them a good few seasons of growth.
 
Propragules?

Propagules are basically the equivalent of a seed for red mangroves. It's what we put into our aquariums that sprout leaves and roots. https://www.google.com/search?q=propagules

I have my AI Prime 16 HD scheduled for 10 hours ramping up to a peak of 60% intensity on all colors - around 40 watts. The hang on ceiling grow light is 150 watts full spectrum LED.


Wish me luck!! Going to get the mangroves next month when this cold weather stops to give them a good few seasons of growth.

Is that 150w grow light actually 150w or equivalent to 150w? Many LEDs give you their equivalent wattage, but it can be hard sometimes to figure out their actual wattage. Also, can you give the brand and name of the bulb? I'm not sure that amazon links work on r2r, at least I only see a logo and not a link I can follow in your last post.
 
Propagules are basically the equivalent of a seed for red mangroves. It's what we put into our aquariums that sprout leaves and roots. https://www.google.com/search?q=propagules



Is that 150w grow light actually 150w or equivalent to 150w? Many LEDs give you their equivalent wattage, but it can be hard sometimes to figure out their actual wattage. Also, can you give the brand and name of the bulb? I'm not sure that amazon links work on r2r, at least I only see a logo and not a link I can follow in your last post.
For sure! I was recommended this light by somone here growing mangroves.
Type: Relassy LED Plant Light

Brand‎Relassy
Manufacturer‎Relassy
Part Number‎80101018-fba
Item Weight ‎1.65 pounds
Package Dimensions ‎10.04 x 8.03 x 2.44 inches
Style‎Waterproof Grow Light Outdoor
Color ‎Yellow
Material‎Metal
Special Features ‎Waterproof IP67
Shade Material‎Aluminum
Power Source‎AC
Batteries Required? ‎No
Type of Bulb‎LED
Wattage‎150 watts
 
I have two mangroves I got as just pods without any leaves or growth. Each under a prime 16 (non hd) and they seem to grow fine. Slow but constant. I spray them
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with ro water every day or so, and that’s about it. It was givin to me, so kind of unplanned- lights are running AB+ with slight modifications. Been about a year and this is the growth:
CE570A5C-CF9C-4F65-9861-E7E14B111ECB.jpeg
 
For sure! I was recommended this light by somone here growing mangroves.
Type: Relassy LED Plant Light

Brand‎Relassy
Manufacturer‎Relassy
Part Number‎80101018-fba
Item Weight ‎1.65 pounds
Package Dimensions ‎10.04 x 8.03 x 2.44 inches
Style‎Waterproof Grow Light Outdoor
Color ‎Yellow
Material‎Metal
Special Features ‎Waterproof IP67
Shade Material‎Aluminum
Power Source‎AC
Batteries Required? ‎No
Type of Bulb‎LED
Wattage‎150 watts

Looks like they are actually 50w lights and 150w equivalent, for HPS/MH. Should probably work fine though.

I'm using a Sansi 36 watt bulb that is supposed to be 400w equivalent. They are on sale for 30$ on Amazon right now, normally $50, so pretty good deal. I am probably going to supplement with a 24w version of the same bulb.
 
I have two mangroves I got as just pods without any leaves or growth. Each under a prime 16 (non hd) and they seem to grow fine. Slow but constant. I spray them
08AFDA5F-560F-4831-A00A-DE70A29A7EA5.jpeg
with ro water every day or so, and that’s about it. It was givin to me, so kind of unplanned- lights are running AB+ with slight modifications. Been about a year and this is the growth:
CE570A5C-CF9C-4F65-9861-E7E14B111ECB.jpeg
your setup is looking great!! how old are they? are they growing in any sand? Also, is your preset heavy in whites, greens and reds at all? Sorry for all the questions!


Looks like they are actually 50w lights and 150w equivalent, for HPS/MH. Should probably work fine though.

I'm using a Sansi 36 watt bulb that is supposed to be 400w equivalent. They are on sale for 30$ on Amazon right now, normally $50, so pretty good deal. I am probably going to supplement with a 24w version of the same bulb.
Oh so I guess they are not 50 watts? With the AI Prime 16 HD + the hang on lights I hope this is sufficient. Time will tell! I imagine it will be hearing others setups.
 
Oh so I guess they are not 50 watts? With the AI Prime 16 HD + the hang on lights I hope this is sufficient. Time will tell! I imagine it will be hearing others setups.

Sorry, no they do consume roughly 50 watts. They are advertised in the table you shared above as 150 watts. Though wattage is not as useful as PAR or PPFD numbers, it would be nice to get some for the most commonly used bulbs/light fixtures.
 
Sorry, no they do consume roughly 50 watts. They are advertised in the table you shared above as 150 watts. Though wattage is not as useful as PAR or PPFD numbers, it would be nice to get some for the most commonly used bulbs/light fixtures.
whoops I made a typo I got you
 
your setup is looking great!! how old are they? are they growing in any sand? Also, is your preset heavy in whites, greens and reds at all? Sorry for all the questions!
Thanks my friend! I’ve had them maybe a year, or alittle longer. One is rooted into the large rock, and the other i “planted” in a small pot with sand. I have the white turned way down like 6%- and they seem to be doing ok
 

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