Anyone with knowledge of collecting fish from ocean?

[ssdawood]

I didn't know where to post this so I thought I will post this under the fish only subforum.
We all like to collect marine fishes but lately I've been wondering how hard it is to net and collect the fish in the ocean. We know that there are divers who go down and collect the fish, I'm not talking about fishes that are very deep I'm talking about ordinary fish that is not too deep.
I know there are other ways to collect fishes but I was specifically interested in the process of net caught fishes

Where am I going with this. I recently heard that Hawaai let's you net fish if it's for personal use. So let's say 4 or 5 members go for a 7 day trip. We try to collect fish and bring it back. I am sure it will not be illegal to hire a guide who can help us find spots and have tanks etc to treat fish before we ship.

I know it's hard to catch a fish. I think something like catching a chicken. Looks easy till you try it.
Humor me.

Can we out of shape hobbyist go on an adventure, get to see reefs corals, and maybe get lucky to collect a yellow tang or two.

If we fail you still get to enjoy trip, enjoy reefs and corals in ocean and make new reefing buddies.

Next time no one will complain about paying 300 for yellow tang.

 

[michael_cb_125]

If you live in Hawaii, this may be possible.
You would be unable to travel there catch fish and ship them..

 

[Jubei2006]

For shipping you'd likely have to get CITEs permits and such. Hawaii is shut down for collection and shipping, so you'd risk getting into legal trouble trying to basically smuggle fish. Go, enjoy the reefs in their grandeur. Take lots of photos to share with us jealous snobs, and wait for Hawaii to reopen, or get on the list for biota/aquacultured specimens, or wait for someone breaking down a tank to snag one. Good luck!

 

[monkeyCmonkeyDo]

I think ud be better off going international than domestic. Would need a business license. Ect...
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[monkeyCmonkeyDo]

I can't speak for warm waters but I've collected Coldwater yes.
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[monkeyCmonkeyDo]

It's going cross state lines thats illegal i think. Lol
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[RedfishReefer]

It's going cross state lines thats illegal i think. Lol
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Does this mean for all fish?

 

[ssdawood]

Here they mention we are allowed to collect for personal use. Even ship it, as long as regulation are perfectly followed.
Confused now.

FAQ’s

What is pono fishing? How can I fish pono? To fish pono means to fish in a way that’s proper, right, and ethical in order to help sustain healthy fish […]

dlnr.hawaii.gov

 

[3429810]

I saw a post recently where someone brought back zoas they just couldn’t bring any substrate with them. Might be worth looking that up and seeing if the op has any relevant info or someone you could contact there.

 

[ssdawood]

I saw a post recently where someone brought back zoas they just couldn’t bring any substrate with them. Might be worth looking that up and seeing if the op has any relevant info or someone you could contact there.

Corals are different animal. You need CITES for it or aquaculture license etc.
Strictly fish we are talking. I post here by mistake. I have another thread, thought this was it.

 

[ssdawood]

Same for rocks etc. Just fish.

 

[3429810]

Corals are different animal. You need CITES for it or aquaculture license etc.
Strictly fish we are talking. I post here by mistake. I have another thread, thought this was it.

That is why I said the guy brought back zoas. They are not stony corals or rocks. I was more meaning to look for info on importing or shipping in that thread and they had mentioned who they had called to get the info.

 

[SlugSnorter]

Same for rocks etc. Just fish.

no rocks or corals, you CANNOT take them. Fish is eh... it will be a pain, and will likely die

 

[chipchipbro]

You could ask @Kona Diver

 

[Tamberav]

Shipping back takes like two days I guess due to time difference so you have to pack them in oxygen and it will cost a metric ton to ship. Someone here was just talking and out how they shipped fish in and out of hawaii and the shipping cost was more than the fishes worth.

 

[BZOFIQ]

It's going cross state lines thats illegal i think. Lol
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Why even make such posts? Fish are shipped between states every day - legally.

 

[BZOFIQ]

Here they mention we are allowed to collect for personal use. Even ship it, as long as regulation are perfectly followed.
Confused now.

FAQ’s

What is pono fishing? How can I fish pono? To fish pono means to fish in a way that’s proper, right, and ethical in order to help sustain healthy fish […]

dlnr.hawaii.gov

This pretty much covers it. I know some airlines prohibit bringing animals on board but I've heard from my local fish buddies they have safely transported fish they bought at shows etc via flights in their carry-on.

Just check which airlines allow it.

For everything else as @ssdawood suggested check out the link below

FAQ’s

What is pono fishing? How can I fish pono? To fish pono means to fish in a way that’s proper, right, and ethical in order to help sustain healthy fish […]

dlnr.hawaii.gov

CAN I COLLECT AQUATIC LIFE FOR MY PERSONAL HOME AQUARIUM?​

Yes. You may recreationally collect aquatic life for your personal home aquarium. Please be sure to utilize legal gear and follow all other applicable regulations. Additionally, please be aware that any taking of aquarium fish or other aquatic life in the West Hawai‘i Regional Fishery Management Area is prohibited.

CAN I TRANSPORT THE AQUATIC LIFE I COLLECT FOR MY PERSONAL HOME AQUARIUM OUT OF STATE?​

Yes, although you should check with the appropriate agency in your home state for any restrictions on the kinds of animals they will allow to be imported. Many states have alien species concerns, which may include microscopic organisms, pathogens, or parasites in the water or on the fish. You should also check with your airline to find out their requirements and recommendations for shipping live fish.

 

[SlugSnorter]

Shipping back takes like two days I guess due to time difference so you have to pack them in oxygen and it will cost a metric ton to ship. Someone here was just talking and out how they shipped fish in and out of hawaii and the shipping cost was more than the fishes worth.

not to mention the odds of the package getting delayed, wild fish getting sick and dieing from stress, the package getting stopped, the truck getting stuck. IMO its better to buy fish from an LFS or reputable seller. Better yet make an effort to lean more towards captive bred

 

[Rmckoy]

It's going cross state lines thats illegal i think. Lol
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I believe it is ok to locally collect some fish it would depend on the species being collected .
Shipping would require permits and even if a particular fish is on a endangered list wouldn’t be allowed !

collecting for personal purposes implies to food .
I believe there might be regulations about net catching any species for shipping , even if only catching , if they were being sold for profit would be a issue

let’s think of it like this .
if they can’t control what we make money on by taxing it , they make it illegal

 

[BZOFIQ]

not to mention the odds of the package getting delayed, wild fish getting sick and dieing from stress, the package getting stopped, the truck getting stuck. IMO its better to buy fish from an LFS or reputable seller. Better yet make an effort to lean more towards captive bred

People have been buyin fish online for a long time. Here and there a package is delayed, destroyed, goes missing, gets discarded in a ditch, etc, etc.

This has not stopped people from buying and shipping their fish. Contrary, online shopping has increased and lots of LFS have closed down.

Not to mention that the fish are shipped from where they were born to begin with - be it wild-caught or aquacultured.